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Couldn't create desired viewport
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* October 28, 2019, 04:29:43 AM
If the Perspective option is on, it is possible to create only a symmetrical (relative to the center of the window) named view.

See attached picture.

« Last Edit: October 29, 2019, 03:25:29 AM by Ehtisham Mehmood IMSI »

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* October 28, 2019, 01:03:45 PM
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What was the original question? What kind of Viewport was the user trying to create? I've never had any problems creating a Viewport from a specific location (Position) to a specific ‘Target Point’. I find it helpful to zero-out the "UP Vector" to "0,0,1", otherwise the view may be turned. Using the Dynamic View tools can also be a big help in moving around the screen in 'real-time'.

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October 28, 2019, 01:09:05 PM
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Unfortunately, Zoom Extents has never placed objects in the center of the view area when in Perspective mode.  Additionally, manually positioning the view with the sliders is problematic (simply clicking causes a drastic change).

Personally, I am chagrined that this operational behavior has been unchanged in all the time I've used TurboCAD.


Jeff

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* October 28, 2019, 01:21:39 PM
#3
I almost never use the Scroll Bars to move around. I find the Dynamic Pan (Hold mouse wheel+Ctrl+Shift) the best for moving around a little or a lot.

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October 28, 2019, 03:01:03 PM
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Certainly better than the scroll bars.

Nowhere near as good as TurboCAD doing it properly for us.


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* October 28, 2019, 08:13:09 PM
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What was the original question? What kind of Viewport was the user trying to create? I've never had any problems creating a Viewport from a specific location (Position) to a specific ‘Target Point’. I find it helpful to zero-out the "UP Vector" to "0,0,1", otherwise the view may be turned. Using the Dynamic View tools can also be a big help in moving around the screen in 'real-time'.

Yeah John, I was thinking the same thing.
 Seems more like a robotic response to something which doesn't make sense. They really need to speak out and explain more with these FAQ's

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* October 29, 2019, 03:26:50 AM
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Video has been attached for better understanding.

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* October 29, 2019, 07:59:42 AM
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Video (viewport error.mp4) has been attached to original post for better understanding.

Thank you for the movie. So, when using the "Create View" tool while in a Perspective mode, a user is restricted to the center of the drawing area. If Perspective is turned off, the "Create View" tool will work anywhere in the drawing area.

They should update the Creating a View topic in the Help files to note these differences.

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* October 29, 2019, 08:30:18 AM
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For me that was normal :), have always adjusted the screensize and to what i want to see in view, to a about size that will fit inside the area in P Space, and as a inserted picture lately if in Draft or Q render, TC dont use so much time then, work quicker.
I dont need to make renders like Darrel do on his interior design and renders.

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* October 29, 2019, 08:38:08 AM
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A workaround to this problem would be to insert a generic Viewport into Paper Space with Perspective turned on.
Select the Viewport, then "Zoom Selection" and finally, "Model Space(Floating)" (Ctrl+Alt+F).
Now you can establish the view just like if you were actually in ModelSpace.
Click outside the Viewport or use "Ctrl+Alt+F" to return to Paper Space.

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October 29, 2019, 08:59:54 AM
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I've been on these Forum boards, including the previous incarnation, a decade or two.
I've never witnessed "Couldn't create desired viewport (of Perspective View)" being a FAQ.

I do a version of what John says:  With the Viewport selected (Lock Scale & Lock Camera un-ticked), activate Model_Space(Floating); Select the object; invoke "Zoom Selection"; use the Walk (mainly, now that it is Zoomed to the Selection), Dyanamic Pan, Dynamic Examine, and similar to get the view I want.  Goes very quickly and smoothly.

Anyway... probably not even really a FAQ issue enough to give it too much attention.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2019, 09:02:35 AM by Alvin Gregorio »

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* October 29, 2019, 10:58:33 AM
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A workaround to this problem would be to insert a generic Viewport into Paper Space with Perspective turned on.
Select the Viewport, then "Zoom Selection" and finally, "Model Space(Floating)" (Ctrl+Alt+F).
Now you can establish the view just like if you were actually in ModelSpace.
Click outside the Viewport or use "Ctrl+Alt+F" to return to Paper Space.

Spot on, John

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