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TurboCAD Moving Slow
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May 20, 2019, 07:32:43 PM
I have been having issues working with TC 26.0 26.1. It is just moving slow, even just selecting tools is sluggish. I have red native draw engaged. I also have the cam plugin loaded. I was wondering if anyone else was noticing any sluggishness and if you think a reinstall might be warranted? Feels like turtleware.


* May 20, 2019, 08:21:09 PM
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Hi Don,
Did you change TC windows compatibility?


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May 21, 2019, 01:57:46 AM
#2
Hi Don,
Did you change TC windows compatibility?



Yes, I had changed it to windows 8 comparability so my status bar fields would show.


May 21, 2019, 02:31:26 AM
#3
I had problems with the CAM plug-in slowing program start considerably (40% longer) and crashes (0 without the plug-in to 4 or so per day with it).  I have not had the time to try the latest version of the CAM plug-in, however.


Jeff

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* May 21, 2019, 04:22:45 AM
#4
Hi Don,
Did you change TC windows compatibility?



Yes, I had changed it to windows 8 comparability so my status bar fields would show.

Try switching back to normal compatibility.
I recently changed compatibility to troubleshoot an issue with the redstuff plugin and experienced the slow UI.
It took me a while to final realize what was happening.


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May 26, 2019, 05:25:49 PM
#5
There is something seriously wrong with the latest version of TC2019 (v26.0.26.1).  Aside from things moving slow, I am trying to create a typical set of drawing for the tool post I posted in the gallery and it is taking endless amounts of time to create drafting pallet objects. Just making this single view from the main body took about 5 minutes to show up on the palette. I know it has threaded holes, but I have done many complex parts in the past without issue, and I am not so new to this rodeo that I don't recognize poor performance. I am getting very frustrated with this latest version.

Trying to insert the second drafting palette view of the same part and so far it is over ten minutes. Wonder if it is still calculating or it is stuck in an endless loop?????????????????????????????????...

So I tried in TC2018 and didn't any issue. TC2018 doesn't have Red, so I wonder if having Red in TC2019 is the problem???????????????....
« Last Edit: May 26, 2019, 06:03:43 PM by Don Cheke »

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May 27, 2019, 12:00:50 AM
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There is something seriously wrong with the latest version of TC2019 (v26.0.26.1).  Aside from things moving slow, I am trying to create a typical set of drawing for the tool post I posted in the gallery and it is taking endless amounts of time to create drafting pallet objects. Just making this single view from the main body took about 5 minutes to show up on the palette. I know it has threaded holes, but I have done many complex parts in the past without issue, and I am not so new to this rodeo that I don't recognize poor performance. I am getting very frustrated with this latest version.

Trying to insert the second drafting palette view of the same part and so far it is over ten minutes. Wonder if it is still calculating or it is stuck in an endless loop?????????????????????????????????...

So I tried in TC2018 and didn't any issue. TC2018 doesn't have Red, so I wonder if having Red in TC2019 is the problem???????????????....
Don,

    I think you may have hit the nail on the head!
    Easy to check?

Regards Tim

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Windows 10 Pro (1909) 64-bit


May 27, 2019, 01:56:49 PM
#7
There is something seriously wrong with the latest version of TC2019 (v26.0.26.1).  Aside from things moving slow, I am trying to create a typical set of drawing for the tool post I posted in the gallery and it is taking endless amounts of time to create drafting pallet objects. Just making this single view from the main body took about 5 minutes to show up on the palette. I know it has threaded holes, but I have done many complex parts in the past without issue, and I am not so new to this rodeo that I don't recognize poor performance. I am getting very frustrated with this latest version.

Trying to insert the second drafting palette view of the same part and so far it is over ten minutes. Wonder if it is still calculating or it is stuck in an endless loop?????????????????????????????????...

So I tried in TC2018 and didn't any issue. TC2018 doesn't have Red, so I wonder if having Red in TC2019 is the problem???????????????....
Don,

    I think you may have hit the nail on the head!
    Easy to check?

Regards Tim


I ditched Red and still no difference with this version. Without others indicating similar issues, I doubt this will be resolved in my case. I find it frustrating when a whole version proves to be less than adequate. Shades iv V12....


May 27, 2019, 05:42:04 PM
#8
Yesterday I had issues with 2018pp slowing down dramatically for no apparent reason. I experienced slow selection of all objects and traversing menu functions, these glitches occurred straight after an onscreen split second refresh. After shutting down and rebooting all is okay today.

Using redsdk graphics engine amd rendering in lightworks. No animation, cad cam or other add in use.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2019, 05:43:52 PM by Darryl W »

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* May 28, 2019, 03:35:59 AM
#9
I have problems with TCP2019. For example - in 2D drawing I select text. Double click on it,  opens Properties window.  In TCP2018 it last ~ 2 sec. in TCP2019 ~10-12 sec. Other functions are also slowed down. After changing TCP2019 windows compatibility ( to Win8)  is OK, but only for some time. Problem appears again. Then I have to change compatibility again to Win10. I work in GDI mode.
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May 28, 2019, 05:07:56 AM
#10
I wasn't seeing a slowdown with 2019 until just recently.

I seem to have resolved it by copying and pasting to a new document (that reduced file size from 23MB to 16MB).


Jeff

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May 28, 2019, 05:42:59 PM
#11
I seem to have resolved it by copying and pasting to a new document (that reduced file size from 23MB to 16MB).

Maybe not... I added a standard complement of lights and the file size returned to 23MB.  That's a puzzle.


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* November 15, 2019, 05:39:47 PM
#12
Has anyone found a solution to slow running TC 2019?

I just built a brand new computer:

9th generation Core i7-9700K
Asus Z390 Motherboard
Quadro P2000 Graphics Card
32 GB 3200Mhz DDR4 RAM
2) 1TB Samsung 970 PCIe M.2 V-NAND 3,500MB/s SSDs
Windows 10 -64 professional

Loaded TC 2019 Platinum, and its like I am on an old Windows 2000 computer. I need to use TC every day for work, and this is painful.  Like some of the posts mentioned above, I right click on a dimension, select properties, then 10 seconds of a spinning blue circle before the properties menu shows up. Major lags even when selecting just a straight line.

Click on the open file icon and the Wndows folder doesn't come up for 5-8 seconds, to even be able to select a file to open.  I can understand if there are issues with the CAD part of things, but opening a Windows file folder should be outside of the CAD part and shouldn't be slow.

The computer is lightning fast for everything except TC. It even boots up to Windows from a cold start in about 8 seconds.

Thanks,
Gregg.

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November 16, 2019, 12:33:07 AM
#13
Hey Greg Im tipping that its related to  Windows 10 itself, on occasions in the last year Ive had slow going in both 2018pp & 2019pp.

Just recently  everything is going ok, but 2-3 months ago it was much slower than normal and then Windows updated against my wishes ( updates were disabled for 1 week only ) and turbocad started running faster, go figure.

If youve got rollback or restote points active and youve had enough then give them a try. Its been reported in the beta forum numerous times but development and the programmers cannot isolate the problem area, its a fundamental windows problem thats  persists from time to time.

Have you had turbocad on your system long enough to remember if it was faster at some point?

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* November 16, 2019, 09:43:57 AM
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I had TC 2018 Platinum on the old computer.  It was a 10 year old computer and it ran without any turbo lag. The motherboard failed and I had to build a new one. I upgrade to 2019 at the same time.  It is a brand new install of Windows, but it does list 3 cumulative updates.

Here is the conundrum. The old computer running TC 2018 Platinum was a very high end computer 10 years ago, the best that I could build. It didn't have any turbo lag in the windows interface aspects of TC, quite snappy opening properties windows, etc. but when a client would send me a 3d DWG model that was converted from Revit, the old computer couldn't navigate it or rotate it.  I mean it would, if a millimeter jog in the model every 10 seconds was what you call moving. Basically unusable. The new computer can manipulate these models somewhat. Jumpy but much better than the old one.  So every aspect of 2019 doesn't exhibit turbo lag.

I am going to install 2018 on this machine and see what it acts like.

Thanks,
Gregg

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November 16, 2019, 03:44:17 PM
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The new computer can manipulate these models somewhat. Jumpy but much better than the old one.  So every aspect of 2019 doesn't exhibit turbo lag.

That is typical for everything that isn't RedSDK.  It is the only renderer that can give me smooth rotation in Hidden Line or Draft Render modes.


Jeff

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* November 21, 2019, 09:55:02 AM
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It seems most posts here are about 3D and rendering but my speed issue is just with selecting an object and opening the Properties for that object, this task can take 10 seconds.  Other than that, the program runs quickly.   Is there something in the program that is trying to reference a drive or a website that it can't get to?

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* November 21, 2019, 03:36:46 PM
#17
It seems most posts here are about 3D and rendering but my speed issue is just with selecting an object and opening the Properties for that object, this task can take 10 seconds.  Other than that, the program runs quickly.   Is there something in the program that is trying to reference a drive or a website that it can't get to?

Have you noticed whether the delay is related to the kind of object you select?

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* November 22, 2019, 01:52:45 PM
#18
My slowness issues are the same as dplascanada.  When right clicking any object, text, dimensions, even a single straight line and selecting properties, it takes a long time before the properties window opens.  But an even greater delay when clicking on the open file icon. Very long delay before the window shows up to allow the section of a file.  Once the file is selected the drawing opens very quickly.

Not sure that this could be a drive access delay issue as the drives are PCIe NVMe drives 3,500 MB/sec.

Gregg

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* November 22, 2019, 02:23:38 PM
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My slowness issues are the same as dplascanada.  When right clicking any object, text, dimensions, even a single straight line and selecting properties, it takes a long time before the properties window opens.  But an even greater delay when clicking on the open file icon. Very long delay before the window shows up to allow the section of a file.  Once the file is selected the drawing opens very quickly.

Not sure that this could be a drive access delay issue as the drives are PCIe NVMe drives 3,500 MB/sec.

Gregg

I see that exact behavior when running TC in compatibility mode > see my reply #4 at the top of this thread.
To see if you're running in compatibility mode right click on the TC icon go to properties go to compatibility.

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* November 22, 2019, 03:00:28 PM
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I just checked.  It is not in compatibility mode.

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* November 29, 2019, 12:51:17 AM
#21
Hello all,
I have the same problem with TurboCad, either TC 2019 Deluxe or TC2017 pro-platinum. I am using TC for 2D drafting only. Opening a window takes several seconds, for example, 3 to 4 seconds to be able to edit a leader. I have been using TurboCad for about 15 years and I did not have this problem before. I am working on a 1-year-old hp workstation with an NVIDIA quadro M2000 graphic card. I am also working with Rhinoceros which is very fast. So the problem is with TurboCad.
I have thousands of TC files on my computer. therefore it is essential to fix the problem.
Thank you for help.

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November 29, 2019, 12:59:56 AM
#22
Hey all...it's been a while since I've been around here. Tuned in to check about loosing the materials editor (there's a registry fix I've yet to do...ugh), and came across this thread. ME TOO!! Using 2015 Platinum and have the same ridiculous wait times for the properties dialog, and drafting palette is maddening. It sometimes takes me literally hours to generate one complex shop drawing. Generating the views is tolerable, but after filling a drafting page, moving around is so-ho-hum slow!, especially if I've already added a hidden line style to any of the views. Then also, making every change to the model takes many minutes, and only moved parts stay intact on the drafting page - if I've altered or added a part, it disappears. If the drafting palette is collapsed, each model move goes a little faster. I grumble at the screen a lot. The drafting palette has been slow ever since I've been using TCAD, from V16. Oh, and zooming onto a complex assembly is like ratcheting.

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* November 29, 2019, 04:18:14 AM
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If use Draft Palette, it do make a copy of whats inside the *.tcw file for every view you make, and file size get very big after short time.
I normally explode the views and delete them in Draft palette after that.
In view property we can check " render for print only " to make TC work quicker/ easier when it looks like we want, but if use TurboPDF queuee it need to be finish rendered before print.

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November 29, 2019, 07:08:03 AM
#24
On the Drafting Palette subject:  Greg T made a case  (and shared a PDF making his case and containing a brief tutorial) for using XRefs for Drafting Palette insertions.

That Post is Here.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2019, 07:36:26 AM by Alvin Gregorio »

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* March 28, 2020, 07:08:52 PM
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OK, I run into the slow response issue on a regular basis. Today I was drawing a simple rack to hold a turntable, amp, and some records. Basically some 1x1 square dowels and 3 shelves, After about the 8th dowel things got real slow. Trying to move one using the conceptual tools was jerky and slow. I've had cases where I try to drag a part and it is either jerky and moves in large jumps or even moves in the wrong direction.

I hope this and other broken features are fixed in the final update for 2019.

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March 29, 2020, 01:48:16 AM
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OK, I run into the slow response issue on a regular basis. Today I was drawing a simple rack to hold a turntable, amp, and some records. Basically some 1x1 square dowels and 3 shelves, After about the 8th dowel things got real slow. Trying to move one using the conceptual tools was jerky and slow. I've had cases where I try to drag a part and it is either jerky and moves in large jumps or even moves in the wrong direction.

I hope this and other broken features are fixed in the final update for 2019.

Joel,

when you have repeated objects, in a drawing, it is good practice to make one of these (the first one) a block.
Replicate copies of the block/s, rather than repeating copies of the drawing object.
I hope that makes sense.
This can significantly reduce the drawing time.

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March 29, 2020, 03:51:28 AM
#27
What Tim just wrote is really good advice.

A response from Joel I might expect is "but I want to use the dowels to 3D_Subtract them from the shelves; and TC won't allow usage of Blocks to 3D_Subtract" (unless Joel's more-current-than mine TC version allows that).
Good point.

First thing to come to my mind to attend to that is:
>Format the first instance of the dowel to be a Block
>Do all the copying and placements of that Block(s), amongst the shelves
>Select all the dowel Blocks.  Select_by_Layer or Select_by_Entity_Type might be useful for this.
>Copy_In_Place all those selected dowel Blocks.  My go-to method of doing that is Murray's tip years ago--> activate the Selection_Tool's Make_Copy option, and hit Tab+Enter.
>With all the initial copies of the dowel Blocks still selected, Explode them one time.
>With all the initial copies of the now-Exploded-to-Part_or_Solid dowel (used to be) Blocks still selected, do a Multi-Add_VB6 (what it is now called and where it is located in your version, I do not know; in my V21, it seems its default location is the SDK menu)
>Now you can 3D_Subtract those dowels in unison from your shelves.  You might have to do it multiple times, depending on what you have going on; if that's the case engage the option Don't_remove_the_Subtrahend... until you've done your last Subtraction

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March 29, 2020, 05:07:30 AM
#28
OK, I run into the slow response issue on a regular basis. Today I was drawing a simple rack to hold a turntable, amp, and some records.

The objects you are designing indicate you plan to make renders instead of just doing mechanical design. If so, you may be experiencing the same problem that I had before I learned better.

If your paper spaces are set to render all the time, then every time you make a change in model space, everything will be rendered on the paper space pages. This can really slow things down.

For each viewport, verify the "Render for print only" flag is active.


Jeff


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* March 29, 2020, 10:17:02 AM
#29
I will look into blocks, I have not done this before. This project would be a good test, did not take long to draw, so I can replicate it trying to replicate blocks ( once I figure that out ) and see if it helps.

Thanks


OK, I run into the slow response issue on a regular basis. Today I was drawing a simple rack to hold a turntable, amp, and some records. Basically some 1x1 square dowels and 3 shelves, After about the 8th dowel things got real slow. Trying to move one using the conceptual tools was jerky and slow. I've had cases where I try to drag a part and it is either jerky and moves in large jumps or even moves in the wrong direction.

I hope this and other broken features are fixed in the final update for 2019.

Joel,

when you have repeated objects, in a drawing, it is good practice to make one of these (the first one) a block.
Replicate copies of the block/s, rather than repeating copies of the drawing object.
I hope that makes sense.
This can significantly reduce the drawing time.

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* March 29, 2020, 10:20:27 AM
#30
Mine is TC 2019 Platinum.

This was just a conceptual render so no addition or subtraction of parts. So I will still give this a go. From the wording in your comment, does this mean that later versions of TC do allow 3D modifications with blocks?

What Tim just wrote is really good advice.

A response from Joel I might expect is "but I want to use the dowels to 3D_Subtract them from the shelves; and TC won't allow usage of Blocks to 3D_Subtract" (unless Joel's more-current-than mine TC version allows that).
Good point.

First thing to come to my mind to attend to that is:
>Format the first instance of the dowel to be a Block
>Do all the copying and placements of that Block(s), amongst the shelves
>Select all the dowel Blocks.  Select_by_Layer or Select_by_Entity_Type might be useful for this.
>Copy_In_Place all those selected dowel Blocks.  My go-to method of doing that is Murray's tip years ago--> activate the Selection_Tool's Make_Copy option, and hit Tab+Enter.
>With all the initial copies of the dowel Blocks still selected, Explode them one time.
>With all the initial copies of the now-Exploded-to-Part_or_Solid dowel (used to be) Blocks still selected, do a Multi-Add_VB6 (what it is now called and where it is located in your version, I do not know; in my V21, it seems its default location is the SDK menu)
>Now you can 3D_Subtract those dowels in unison from your shelves.  You might have to do it multiple times, depending on what you have going on; if that's the case engage the option Don't_remove_the_Subtrahend... until you've done your last Subtraction
« Last Edit: March 29, 2020, 11:22:02 AM by Joel »

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* March 29, 2020, 10:24:37 AM
#31
I pretty much do zero things with paper space, I'm always in model space and only a single view port. That doesn't mean something is not turned on. Once I figure out what this is, I'll change it if needed.

OK, I run into the slow response issue on a regular basis. Today I was drawing a simple rack to hold a turntable, amp, and some records.

The objects you are designing indicate you plan to make renders instead of just doing mechanical design. If so, you may be experiencing the same problem that I had before I learned better.

If your paper spaces are set to render all the time, then every time you make a change in model space, everything will be rendered on the paper space pages. This can really slow things down.

For each viewport, verify the "Render for print only" flag is active.


Jeff

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March 29, 2020, 10:48:02 AM
#32
Mine is TC 2019 Platinum.

This was just a conceptual render so no addition or subtraction of parts. So I will still give this a go. From the wording in your comment, does this mean that later versions of TC do allow #D modifications with blocks?
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RE  "From the wording in your comment, does this mean that later versions of TC do allow #D modifications with blocks?"  -Joel
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I don't know.  I haven't worked with a TC more recent than 21.  I was hoping someone with the same version as you-- or recent enough version-- would have offered input on that.

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* March 29, 2020, 12:13:18 PM
#33
Yes, if press D we can change refpoint on Blocks, 2D and 3D, primitives in Surface, Solid and Acis Solid after insert in 2019 Platinum at least.
If we want to change refpoint on the Block itself we need to do it in Edit Block mode and Relocate Referance point , that can be a bit cumbersome, so try to remember set the refpoint before make the Block.
I dont work much with Blocks, but have it not always been like that ?, i cant remember that ever have been an issue.

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* March 29, 2020, 12:48:16 PM
#34
Well, I just deleted a bunch of like parts except one. I created a block with it and then made copies of the block. Seems I was able to select and move them a little better. I tried to do a subtract on one of the parts from the block and it would not work.

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* March 29, 2020, 12:54:00 PM
#35
Explode the Block 1 time and it will work, else you need to do it in Block edit mode, but then it will have effect on all of this Blocks in your drawing, normally we dont want that to happen :)

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* March 30, 2020, 06:22:53 AM
#36
So I went to try this and now TC is broken again. I use the LTE interface and it seems that after X number of program starts the UI is broken. Mostly the parametric entry fields go away, makes it real hard to draw an object and can't even draw a 3D object. I'm going to try some things to get it back before doing another reinstall. This gets real annoying.

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* March 30, 2020, 06:42:13 AM
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Was able to get parametric entry back by rebooting but still had to restore some UI elements, but all is working again.

I made some block objects and some copies. Verified I could not do any 3D modifications. Then exploded each one once. Was able to do 3D modifications after that.

Thanks!

Joel

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* April 09, 2020, 04:51:21 PM
#38
Hi Guys

I too want to add to this thread regarding the sluggishness of TurboCAD Pro Platinum 2019 ver Build 37.4 in loading and general operation.
I upgraded from TurboCAD Pro Platinum 21 and it is very noticeable.
I ran both on the following configuration:

O/S : Windows 10 professional 64-bit Version 10.0.18362 Build 18362
H/W : AMD Ryzen R5 1600X @ 3.82Ghz all cores
RAM: 16Gb RAM @2933 Mhz
Graphics : AMD Firepro W4100 2GB vram
Disk : OS on Samsung NVME SSD 256Gb
          Programs & Data on Samsung 860 Evo 500Gb
          2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm

For example, it takes around 22 seconds to load and get to the open file dialogue.
On a system like this it should not take that amount of time. The system boots to the Windows screen in 10 seconds!!!
When I applied the last patch (b70.1) it completely broke the system and took 10minues to load and the open file dialogue was disabled!

Is this version "broken" and should I have got 2018 instead?

BTW I'm an IT guy and benchmarked the drives - all running correctly at the expected performance!

Regards
Mike



     

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Michael Campbell
TurboCad Pro Platinum v15.2, 21.2, 2019, Windows 10 Pro 64, AMD Ryzen 1600X, 16Gb  ram, AMD Firepro W4100 graphics


* April 13, 2020, 04:54:31 PM
#39
I watched mine start up once and noticed that it spends a lot of time doing something online. I always wonder what TC is doing online every time it loads. No reason it should be doing this. Even if your were to be subscription based.

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* May 18, 2020, 10:03:52 AM
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Hi Joel
Thanks for your input. Checking the licence or build status online at Startup is frustrating because it doesn't need to do it. And even if it was a subscription based setup, most programs only check  at between 30 day and 60 day intervals. I had to add an SSD to my system to make it bearable when starting the program and the user interface just feels so sluggish - for want of a better word.

Kind Regards
Michael

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Michael Campbell
TurboCad Pro Platinum v15.2, 21.2, 2019, Windows 10 Pro 64, AMD Ryzen 1600X, 16Gb  ram, AMD Firepro W4100 graphics


* May 21, 2020, 08:53:13 AM
#41
I am in the same boat with properties dialogs being super slow. On Turbcad 2015 Pro it takes 35 seconds to open the properties on a line or dimension in a drawing. Trying to open the properties on an object in the pallet like a line takes over a minute. It wasn't this way before.

My PC is pretty high end, I7 8700 processor, 32 gb of ram.SSD, etc. I have tried all of the Windows comparability modes and none made a difference.

I am going to email turbocad support but am sure I will be told to upgrade. I may see if I can load up my old TC 9 pro.

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