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Need to replace my monitor asap
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* December 02, 2014, 05:27:54 PM
I'm losing my 24" Dell 2408WFP monitor and scrambling to get a replacement on the way. Trying to find info on currently available displays has been 'challenging', so I was hoping someone would take mercy on me and point me in the right direction. I'm leaning towards dual Dell U2414H, perhaps on something other than the Dell stand. Another line of thought is to go with a single BenQ BL3200PT. I have plenty of space on the desk, so either approach works. I use CAD to primarily design water filtration bits and pieces, so there are no monster drawings in my future. Any suggestions? Thanks for the help!

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* December 02, 2014, 09:05:04 PM
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Do you get a line or two down one side like I do on my left hand 2408WFP? The right monitor, which gets less usage, is still okay. I'd probably opt for the U2414H. I've got a 30" Dell on another computer that I inherited, but may stick with 24" when replacement time comes for my dying 2408WFP. I would not recommend a dual monitor on a single stand. It looks good, but it's a bear if you need to change one of the monitors (think TILT).

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* December 02, 2014, 09:23:31 PM
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Yes, as a matter of fact I do have a couple of lines on my monitor, only down the right side. They tend to go away when it warms up but the problem seems to be getting more chronic as time passes. I'm inclined to go with a pair of the U2414H monitors and just forgo the whole dual mount thing for now. I work off a nice, wide military desk and have lots of real estate to play with. I'll keep the dying monitor around as a backup (it has served me well) but can't risk being dead in the water with a big project breathing down my neck. What's your opinion on configuring the workspace with 2 monitors? I'm thinking drafting on one and whatever else I have going on the other. Thanks!
« Last Edit: December 02, 2014, 09:25:59 PM by gatorgrabber »

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* December 02, 2014, 11:05:19 PM
#3
I have an old 3×6 drafting table top that works nicely holding up my monitors. I keep the program/drawing area on the left monitor and almost all the palettes "nested" in the right monitor. I can set the palettes to roll-up if needed and don't have them set to use up the whole screen.

If you want, you could try my workspace for V21. Unzip the two files to your Config folder (above your Drawings folder) and you should see a "v212-590" workspace in the "Load From" list (Customize dialog). Once selected, click on the "Load From" button. The workspace is based on the "Pre" or previous TurboCAD workspaces, not the "Default" setup they put in for the AutoCAD users. I like using the Tools palette with custom toolbars over having toolbars all over the place.

Enjoy  :)

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V17—V21, 2015—2019
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RedSDK enabled
Windows 10 Pro (1903), 64-bit


December 03, 2014, 10:02:41 AM
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I'm losing my 24" Dell 2408WFP monitor and scrambling to get a replacement on the way. Trying to find info on currently available displays has been 'challenging', so I was hoping someone would take mercy on me and point me in the right direction. I'm leaning towards dual Dell U2414H, perhaps on something other than the Dell stand. Another line of thought is to go with a single BenQ BL3200PT. I have plenty of space on the desk, so either approach works. I use CAD to primarily design water filtration bits and pieces, so there are no monster drawings in my future. Any suggestions? Thanks for the help!

After much research, I settled on this monitor. I have no regrets, and many smiles. It is the finest monitor I have ever owned.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/planar-pxl2790mw-review,3647.html

As with anything, it is not perfect, and it may not fit your requirements, but for what I do, it is stellar.

Hope it helps you select the right monitor for yourself.

Regards,
Bud

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* December 03, 2014, 11:19:33 AM
#5
All of this is very helpful, thank you!

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* December 04, 2014, 03:47:23 PM
#6
You may be able to salvage your old monitor also, I have done it with one of my old lcd screens. You tend to get a dry joint or oxidized connection on the ribbon cable that connects to the back of the screen and reseating it a few times will often bring it back to life again. have a look on youtube for some of the methods, it can be fiddly on laptops but should be reasonably easy on a standalone screen.

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* December 04, 2014, 04:05:41 PM
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What the heck, it's worth a shot. I already have a replacement that will arrive tomorrow; I'll get it running then play with the old one. If I can save it, I can use it in portrait mode for documents. Thanks for the tip!  ;)

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December 04, 2014, 06:24:20 PM
#8
You are leaving us in suspense..what did you get to replace your old one?

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* December 04, 2014, 06:40:41 PM
#9
Oops, there's a pertinent detail!  :) After way too much thought and OC behavior, I ended up going with the larger BenQ BL3200PT unit vs running twin 24s. I just couldn't figure out how I was going to make my workspace 'flow' the way I operate, so I punted and went big! I'll know by this time tomorrow if I made a mistake and will post my thoughts.

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December 04, 2014, 06:52:57 PM
#10
What I learned from my monitor purchase last year was:  Think Pixels-per-Inch.  Bud's monitor has me envious; and the suggested-retail-price on it is only $220 more than what I paid for my 27" 1920x1080 ASUS, which-- doing the math-- equates to about 81-PPI.  And I notice it.

-Alvin

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Alvin Gregorio
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December 05, 2014, 11:55:23 AM
#11
Looking back can be painful. It is educational and for those of us who take the time to learn from errors we AND others have endured...beneficial. I have erred on the side of being conservative way, WAY to many times. And, every time I boot up the system I have now, I smile, a very satisfied and well earned smile.

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Corsair CPU Cooler H100i
SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB SATA 6.0GB/s SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB (x2)
Stable @ 4.5 GigHz overclocked
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* December 05, 2014, 01:06:04 PM
#12
The BenQ arrived this morning but had to wait until the Orion mission was complete.  :) "Wow!"...that's what comes to mind looking at this beauty. It was a painless install and I can't wait to play with it this evening. This leads to a secondary question about optimizing the monitor's adjustments. I've always been a bit of a Luddite when it comes to getting my colors tweaked 'just so'. Sitting here looking at my pretty new screen, I'm out of excuses to get it optimized. I'm searching but if anyone has a direction to point me, I'd certainly appreciate it.
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December 06, 2014, 12:01:38 PM
#13
That sure looks like an awesome monitor! I am sure it will give you years of good service. It is a pro way to go 8)

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G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3 1866 
Corsair CPU Cooler H100i
SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB SATA 6.0GB/s SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB (x2)
Stable @ 4.5 GigHz overclocked
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* December 06, 2014, 12:28:41 PM
#14
I'm actually taking this weekend off to work on learning the nuances of the latest version of TC. I feel like I'm at the movies looking at this screen!  8)

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* December 06, 2014, 02:17:06 PM
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Bud, I intended to ask how you liked the graphics card you have in your computer; does it play well with TC21 Pro? Thanks

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December 06, 2014, 03:58:06 PM
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Bud, I intended to ask how you liked the graphics card you have in your computer; does it play well with TC21 Pro? Thanks
I did the same procedure in getting this graphics card as with all the other components...I was very thorough. Some folks call it something else.....  ;)

I wanted a graphics card that would do well in as many programs as possible..TC, SW, AC, PS, etc. So, after evaluating the specific performance benchmarks, I chose the PNY NVIDIA Quadro K2200. 4 gigs of GDDR5 was a significant upgrade from the K2000, (double) and the cuda cores (640) were nothing to sneeze at. It was nowhere near the level of capability of the Quadro K4200, K5200 or above, but the price was within my grasp.

So far, I have no complaints. I can manipulate very complex models in TC and other software with very little lag or hiccups. I have not been fortunate enough to compare the performance with higher level cards, (yet) but the fluidity and smoothness of manipulation of views has left me quite satisfied. For the price point, it is very capable and a worthwhile investment, from my perspective.

Hope this helps~

Bud

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Corsair CPU Cooler H100i
SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB SATA 6.0GB/s SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB (x2)
Stable @ 4.5 GigHz overclocked
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* December 06, 2014, 04:32:05 PM
#17
Thanks for the insight. My system is actually very similar to yours with the exception of the i5 and (for the time being) a GTX GeForce 650. This has actually worked well for me in the past since all I drafted were 2D filtration designs. With the move to 3D, I figure it's just a matter of time before I start to grumble and look to step up.

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December 06, 2014, 04:39:16 PM
#18
especially with that monster monitor! Good luck and keep on keepin on

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Corsair CPU Cooler H100i
SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB SATA 6.0GB/s SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB (x2)
Stable @ 4.5 GigHz overclocked
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* December 06, 2014, 04:42:02 PM
#19
Yea, I kind of forced my own hand on that one... :o To the internet!

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* December 09, 2014, 08:38:14 PM
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Does anyone know if TC can make use of a SLI pair of graphics cards? More curious than anything else...

Regarding graphics cards, I have access to an almost new Quadro 4000 w 2 Gb. Is it worth considering @ $200?
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December 09, 2014, 09:18:17 PM
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Is it worth considering @ $200?
Depends on what $200 is worth to you.
If you want outstanding performance, quality images, and more fun in the sun than you can stand..then you best find a better way to invest your dollars.
Investigate the "new" tech as compared to to "old" tech and you will see what I mean.
There is no such thing as an "almost new" Q-4K. An almost new Q4200 would be understandable. Q4K is OLD tech.
It don't matter much how "almost new" it is..it is still OLD!
The specifications speak much louder than I can.
Hope this helps!
Bud

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Corsair CPU Cooler H100i
SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB SATA 6.0GB/s SSD
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB (x2)
Stable @ 4.5 GigHz overclocked
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* December 10, 2014, 04:05:46 AM
#22
Great point! I had not yet compared the technology of that card to the K2200; that 4K is literally a new piece (physically) of older technology.  :o I'll just order a new tech card and find other things to worry about.

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