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* May 02, 2014, 10:20:42 AM
I bought a new computer and would like to transfer all the MATERIALS, custom wood settings etc. from the old one. I go to Export and it asks for a file name. Could somebody please tell me  what that file name is.

Thanks.

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* May 02, 2014, 11:21:53 AM
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Go to "%AppData%\IMSIDesign\TurboCAD\18\Professional\". Use the Ctrl key to select, then Copy/Save, the folders "Luminance", "Materials", "RenderSceneEnv" and RenderStyles" on the old computer. Paste those folders into the same place on your new computer. This will bring not only the "*.dat" file, but any thumbnails you may have created for custom materials, etc. I included the other folders in case you customized anything there.

Luminance = Luminance.dat
Materials = Propin.Dat
RenderSceneEnv = SceneEnv.dat
RenderStyles = RenderStyles.dat

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* May 02, 2014, 11:40:34 AM
#2
Go to "%AppData%\IMSIDesign\TurboCAD\18\Professional\". Use the Ctrl key to select, then Copy/Save, the folders "Luminance", "Materials", "RenderSceneEnv" and RenderStyles" on the old computer. Paste those folders into the same place on your new computer. This will bring not only the "*.dat" file, but any thumbnails you may have created for custom materials, etc. I included the other folders in case you customized anything there.

Luminance = Luminance.dat
Materials = Propin.Dat
RenderSceneEnv = SceneEnv.dat
RenderStyles = RenderStyles.dat

Thanks John.
 As always your help is appreciated.

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* May 02, 2014, 11:45:45 AM
#3
You're welcome.

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May 02, 2014, 11:17:14 PM
#4
Don, what are the specs of your new computer?

I am in the process of building a new PC for my computational needs; always interested in learning about what others acquire for theirs. My PC is over eight years old, with only two upgrades: video card and ram. It was on the bleeding edge of tech when I bought it, but now it really needs replacing. I started with the monitor, and I got the Planar 27" PXL2790MW. Stunning is understatement. Next are the PC itself, this time I am going to build it from components, rather than just buying one from off the shelf.
Dollar-for-performance is my guiding qualifications, with "future-proofing" as a top criteria. After many hours of research, I am pretty comfortable with my choices. It will be complete in about a month or so.

My computer experience started early on with building PC's, back when you had to consider things like IRQ's and such. Nowadays, the process is MUCH simpler. My last three computers have been store bought (DELL), but this time I am gonna try patching together parts and pieces to make a machine that will do my bidding.

This is what I am putting together:

MOBO:  ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
PROCESSOR: Intel i7-4930K LGA 2011 64 Technology Extended Memory CPU Processors BX80633I74930K
RAM:  G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-1866C9Q-32GZH
Vid Card: PNY Quadro K2000 Graphic Card - 2 GB GDDR5 SDRAM - PCI Express 2.0 x1
BOOT Drive: Two (Raid 1) SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB SATA 6.0GB/s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive (SSD) With Read Up To 530MB/s
Storage Drive: Two (Raid 1)WD Blue 1 TB Desktop Hard Drive: 3.5 Inch, 7200 RPM, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache - WD10EZEX
Power Supply: Silencer 750 Quad (Black)
Monitor 1: Planar 27" PXL2790MW
Monitor 2:  Samsung SyncMaster 930a (Old one from previous PC setup)

Since TurboCad can only address up to 32 Gb of RAM, that is all I am gonna go with for now, tho I can upgrade to 64Gb if I wish. The MOBO has a feature that will allow the use of a SSD for RAMDISK for running renders "on the side", using only a few of the processors of the CPU while I keep on working with the computer, with small, if any, impact to performance. The whole setup "should" keep me in hardware for the next few years, without getting too far behind the tech curve. Hopefully!







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May 03, 2014, 12:32:22 PM
#5
OCZ RevoDrive 350 Series RVD350-FHPX28-480G PCI-E 480GB PCI-Express 2.0 x8 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
READ 1800MB/s
WRITE 1700MB/s
MTBF 2 million hours
Add a 2TB sled drive for archival and when you fill up the RevoDrive Add a second, by then the price will have dropped by 50%, a new memory device is in the pipe for 2015 that will increase the speed and drop the price of SSD internal PCIe memory.

Video Card GTX780 PCIe 3.0  about 4~6x (2304 CORES to 384 and 3.9TFLOPS to .7 TFLOPS) the performance for $80 more.
http://versus.com/en/nvidia-quadro-k2000-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-780
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-3787-KR
They have several versions of this card
If you go the GTX route upgrade your power supply or add a second supply just for the video card, there are kits that allow you to bridge the supplies together. Or better yet add a second video card and a second 750 watt supply for both.
I'm holding off Video upgrade until they fix the problem of the 4K refresh rate and move to PCIe 4.0 later this year

I've open several drawings (large buildings samples) and watched the memory usage, 4 GB, that's it. The CPU usage in  GDI mode puts the load on 1 core, the 7 other cores are at idle

Here's the kicker, I haven't found anyway to measure the GPU load so I can't tell how one video card or two impact the draw rates, I can say the 8 CPU cores go to 100% (flat top) when doing Quality Render with REDSDK and only one flat tops with GDI. I know my video card is supported by REDSDK but I can't tell if it is being used, yet.

FYI: I had 6 SATA III drives as a RAID 5 and I tried RAID 1 but the I/O was, not that good. I tried a PCIe SSD drive and gave up on Hard drives, that SSD used 10.5 watts, a 6 drive array used over 100.

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May 03, 2014, 06:00:46 PM
#6
Thank you, Kangus for that very valuable information. Both the OCZ and the GTX are significant upgrades for not that much more $. Thanks again for the input; much appreciated!

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May 06, 2014, 03:54:22 PM
#7
Regarding building your own, pay attention to exactly what you buy and where.  Here in Southern California there is a major chain of electronic stores called Fry's that sell computer hardware.  You can buy stuff from there but make sure you don't get repacked stuff - people who attempt to make their own computers have little expertise on the whole, and rather frequently return stuff they can't get to work.  Fry's then gives it a quick once over and if it looks OK, they put it back on the shelf ready for you, the next sucker, to buy.
So make sure that whatever you get is packed in its original sealed package.  Assemble it all and let it burn in for three or four days to make sure something isn't going to die prematurely.  You may want to have them assemble it for you, that way they can swap out components so you don't have to stand around in the return line for half a day.

As you can possibly tell, I've gone this route before.  Nowadays I buy things already assembled, and preferably the demo version that you've at least seen work.

Another thing I've found - get something a couple of steps down from the top of the line.  It's going to be obsolete next month anyway, so buy a new computer a year or two sooner with the money you save on the second-rate one.

Roland

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May 07, 2014, 03:23:03 AM
#8
Are the Nvidia Quadro GPUs much more better then the GTX GPUs?

Rudl
« Last Edit: May 07, 2014, 04:35:18 AM by Rudl »

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May 07, 2014, 08:55:50 PM
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Are the Nvidia Quadro GPUs much more better then the GTX GPUs?

Rudl

It really depends on what you are getting the card for: gaming or 3D modeling, rendering, lighting, etc.

A simple analogy is: You can take your pickup truck to the race track and get to the finish line just fine. You can also haul stumps to the dump in your racecar.

Use the Quadro for workstation type work. Use the GTX for games. Both will work for either, but one is more suited to the specific task.

Hope that helps

Bud

P.S. I have seen pickup trucks at the track that just kick it! But I have never seen the same trucks at the dump unloading stumps. I am sure there will be dispute on my opinion (which is what I posted here, MY opinion) about which kind of card to use for what, and there are cards that can work both areas fairly well. {I would never buy a ShopSmith, even tho they do sell fairly well.}
« Last Edit: May 07, 2014, 09:14:30 PM by Bud Lovel »

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May 08, 2014, 12:55:48 AM
#10
THank you Bud,

I am not a gamer. I asked for the use of TC.

I always thought, the number of cudas important.

Rudl

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May 09, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
#11
Found a detailed explanation for the Geforce vs Quadro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro

It is interesting that you can hack a GTX to say it's a Quadro to use the Quadro driver for CAD
It does make sense that the GTX card turns off aliasing and other features for frame rate speed

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* May 13, 2014, 04:50:44 PM
#12
Found a detailed explanation for the Geforce vs Quadro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro

It is interesting that you can hack a GTX to say it's a Quadro to use the Quadro driver for CAD
It does make sense that the GTX card turns off aliasing and other features for frame rate speed

Kangus,

Thanks for the link.... but after looking it  thru a few times I still don't know the procedure for changing the GTX to say it's a Quadro. I bought a new system in January, but I didn't do enough research and bought the GTX 660 2GB. It doesn't seem to perform to what I imagined it would and would very much like to see how the  Quadro works in comparison. Any hints would be appreciated. 

Thanks,
 
« Last Edit: May 13, 2014, 05:44:49 PM by DonCW »

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May 14, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
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     ".... but after looking it  thru a few times I still don't know the procedure for changing the GTX to say it's a Quadro. I bought a new system in January, but I didn't do enough research and bought the GTX 660 2GB. It doesn't seem to perform to what I imagined it would and would very much like to see how the  Quadro works in comparison. Any hints would be appreciated." 

Don, I am not sure if this will help. It is a LONG read, but quite informative. It goes on for pages and pages, with some content about firmware switching the GTX to Quadro.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/386333-33-quadro-geforce-autocad-solidworks-sketchup

Enjoy!

Bud

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* May 14, 2014, 05:48:34 PM
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     ".... but after looking it  thru a few times I still don't know the procedure for changing the GTX to say it's a Quadro. I bought a new system in January, but I didn't do enough research and bought the GTX 660 2GB. It doesn't seem to perform to what I imagined it would and would very much like to see how the  Quadro works in comparison. Any hints would be appreciated." 

Don, I am not sure if this will help. It is a LONG read, but quite informative. It goes on for pages and pages, with some content about firmware switching the GTX to Quadro.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/386333-33-quadro-geforce-autocad-solidworks-sketchup

Enjoy!

Bud

Thanks for the post Bud,

But after looking thru the link, my first thought is I don't a clue about any of this. If it's in the budget and I can buy the Quadro,  I'll install it first and then sell the GTX on Ebay or by some other means.

Thanks again.

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* May 18, 2014, 03:19:49 PM
#15
Don, what are the specs of your new computer?

I am in the process of building a new PC for my computational needs; always interested in learning about what others acquire for theirs. My PC is over eight years old, with only two upgrades: video card and ram. It was on the bleeding edge of tech when I bought it, but now it really needs replacing. I started with the monitor, and I got the Planar 27" PXL2790MW. Stunning is understatement. Next are the PC itself, this time I am going to build it from components, rather than just buying one from off the shelf.
Dollar-for-performance is my guiding qualifications, with "future-proofing" as a top criteria. After many hours of research, I am pretty comfortable with my choices. It will be complete in about a month or so.

My computer experience started early on with building PC's, back when you had to consider things like IRQ's and such. Nowadays, the process is MUCH simpler. My last three computers have been store bought (DELL), but this time I am gonna try patching together parts and pieces to make a machine that will do my bidding.

This is what I am putting together:

MOBO:  ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
PROCESSOR: Intel i7-4930K LGA 2011 64 Technology Extended Memory CPU Processors BX80633I74930K
RAM:  G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-1866C9Q-32GZH
Vid Card: PNY Quadro K2000 Graphic Card - 2 GB GDDR5 SDRAM - PCI Express 2.0 x1
BOOT Drive: Two (Raid 1) SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB SATA 6.0GB/s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive (SSD) With Read Up To 530MB/s
Storage Drive: Two (Raid 1)WD Blue 1 TB Desktop Hard Drive: 3.5 Inch, 7200 RPM, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache - WD10EZEX
Power Supply: Silencer 750 Quad (Black)
Monitor 1: Planar 27" PXL2790MW
Monitor 2:  Samsung SyncMaster 930a (Old one from previous PC setup)

Since TurboCad can only address up to 32 Gb of RAM, that is all I am gonna go with for now, tho I can upgrade to 64Gb if I wish. The MOBO has a feature that will allow the use of a SSD for RAMDISK for running renders "on the side", using only a few of the processors of the CPU while I keep on working with the computer, with small, if any, impact to performance. The whole setup "should" keep me in hardware for the next few years, without getting too far behind the tech curve. Hopefully!

Hi Bud,

I'm Sorry for taking so long to answer, but I misplaced my receipt and found it this morning hiding under the printer less 3ft. away from my keyboard, go figure.

Motherboard - ASUS M5A97 AMD 970/SB950 ATX AM3 +DDR3
Memory - Corsair CMX16GX3M2A133C9 XMS3 16GB 2X8GB DDR3 
Processor - AMD FX-8350 8 CORE SOCKET AM3+4.0GHZ 16MB
Hard Drive - SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6GPS
Video Card - ATI FIREPRO V4900
OS- WIND0WS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64 BIT
Power Supply - ANTEC 620W 135 mm FAN ACTIVE PFC POWER SUPPLY.

I wish I would have gone with 2GB. How is the Quadro K2000 working for you?

« Last Edit: May 18, 2014, 05:31:49 PM by DonCW »

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May 18, 2014, 07:54:50 PM
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Hi Bud,

I'm Sorry for taking so long to answer, but I misplaced my receipt and found it this morning hiding under the printer less 3ft. away from my keyboard, go figure.

Motherboard - ASUS M5A97 AMD 970/SB950 ATX AM3 +DDR3
Memory - Corsair CMX16GX3M2A133C9 XMS3 16GB 2X8GB DDR3 
Processor - AMD FX-8350 8 CORE SOCKET AM3+4.0GHZ 16MB
Hard Drive - SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6GPS
Video Card - ATI FIREPRO V4900
OS- WIND0WS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64 BIT
Power Supply - ANTEC 620W 135 mm FAN ACTIVE PFC POWER SUPPLY.

I wish I would have gone with 2GB. How is the Quadro K2000 working for you?

Hi Don;
I bought my system in parts and pieces; I have yet to order my QK2000 (next week!). All the other pieces are on their way to Alaska as I write this. I should have a complete system up and running and (hopefully!) tested and proven in a few weeks. I will post my experiences as I go along.

Bud

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* May 19, 2014, 05:14:20 AM
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Hi Bud,

I'm Sorry for taking so long to answer, but I misplaced my receipt and found it this morning hiding under the printer less 3ft. away from my keyboard, go figure.

Motherboard - ASUS M5A97 AMD 970/SB950 ATX AM3 +DDR3
Memory - Corsair CMX16GX3M2A133C9 XMS3 16GB 2X8GB DDR3 
Processor - AMD FX-8350 8 CORE SOCKET AM3+4.0GHZ 16MB
Hard Drive - SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6GPS
Video Card - ATI FIREPRO V4900
OS- WIND0WS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64 BIT
Power Supply - ANTEC 620W 135 mm FAN ACTIVE PFC POWER SUPPLY.

I wish I would have gone with 2GB. How is the Quadro K2000 working for you?

Hi Don;
I bought my system in parts and pieces; I have yet to order my QK2000 (next week!). All the other pieces are on their way to Alaska as I write this. I should have a complete system up and running and (hopefully!) tested and proven in a few weeks. I will post my experiences as I go along.

Bud

Okay Bud, thanks.

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* May 20, 2014, 10:11:40 AM
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Hi Bud,

I'm Sorry for taking so long to answer, but I misplaced my receipt and found it this morning hiding under the printer less 3ft. away from my keyboard, go figure.

Motherboard - ASUS M5A97 AMD 970/SB950 ATX AM3 +DDR3
Memory - Corsair CMX16GX3M2A133C9 XMS3 16GB 2X8GB DDR3 
Processor - AMD FX-8350 8 CORE SOCKET AM3+4.0GHZ 16MB
Hard Drive - SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6GPS
Video Card - ATI FIREPRO V4900
OS- WIND0WS 7 HOME PREMIUM 64 BIT
Power Supply - ANTEC 620W 135 mm FAN ACTIVE PFC POWER SUPPLY.

I wish I would have gone with 2GB. How is the Quadro K2000 working for you?

Hi Don;
I bought my system in parts and pieces; I have yet to order my QK2000 (next week!). All the other pieces are on their way to Alaska as I write this. I should have a complete system up and running and (hopefully!) tested and proven in a few weeks. I will post my experiences as I go along.

Bud

I'm curious if the K2000 shown in the screenshot match's what you've purchased.

Thanks

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May 20, 2014, 11:42:04 AM
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I'm curious if the K2000 shown in the screenshot match's what you've purchased.

Yup (will purchase soon)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2014, 11:48:05 AM by Bud Lovel »

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