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best spec system for running tc
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* February 17, 2014, 10:14:39 AM
Hi all

So I need to update my computer as its over four years old now and struggles at times, so figured as apart from word and excel and a few other programs mostly it will be sued for tc, so wondered if there was anything component wise I should be looking at that will work better than others.  Processor speed, ram etc

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February 17, 2014, 11:28:10 AM
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This is what I just bought a couple months ago. I had it built, because I wanted Windows 7. It cost me $2280. but it has been worth every penny.

Intel i7 4820K
4 x 3.7GHz, 3.9GHz Turbo
8 x Threads with Intel HyperThreading
10MB Smart Cache

Memory   
16GB Quad Channel 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
128GB Upgradable

Video   
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video
Nvidia 3D Vision, 3D Vision Surround, CUDA, DirectX 11, PhysX, TXAA, Adaptive VSync, FXAA Compatible

Storage   
500GB Samsung 840 EVO Series SSD (UPGRADED from 120)
540MB/s Read, 410MB/s Write, SATA 6GB/s
1TB Hard Drive 6Gb/s SATA

Optical-drive   
DVD Burner
24x Super-Multi

Motherboard / Connectivity
HDMI/DVI/DisplayPort Connectivity (Quad Display support)
7.1 High Definition Audio
Coaxial/Optical SPDIF Audio with Front Headset/Mic ports
USB 3.0 (Front & Back), USB 2.0 (Front & Back)
10/100/1000 Gigabit LAN
Dual EZ swap bays (Upgraded from 1)

Case   
Mid-Tower Case w/ 500w Power Supply

Modern Styling, Silent Operation, Future Upgradeable
80+ Bronze Certified PSU
High density noise-reducing material

Windows 7 Pro


* February 17, 2014, 12:19:13 PM
#2
At the other end of the spectrum, because portability (economy too) is what suits my work, I have a Dell Inspiron 11.6" 3000 with 1.5GHz Celeron and 8Gb RAM for 64 bit program and an Acer 8" Win 8 tablet for 32 bit.  Even the 8" tab has micro HDMI, so can be plugged into available TVs, and with Bluetooth integrates keyboard and mouse, essentially a desktop that slips into a pocket.  My models and drawings max out between 50-100Mb, but that's very unusual, I don't think I've ever modelled anything with more than 10K features.    Neither PC raises a sweat for TC, the tablet's fanless, the Dell's fan's hardly heard: it runs for 8 hours on battery, the tablet sleeps and resumes almost instantly, its charge lasts 6-7 hours at least working fulltime and it'll remain on to sleep/resume  for more than a week for sporadic work.    I gave some thought to an MS Surface Pro or a higher-end Dell Venue 11 pro because both of them have 1080 IPS screens (neither of my devices have IPS, the newer version of my tablet does) and digitizing styli (MS's is Wacom, Dell's is Synaptics.  Some reckon that Wacom is the better of the two, but I've never seen a head-to-head, the punditry is apparently opinion and "my GM is better than your Ford" bias), and still might capitulate to the impulse, but they're three-four times the price of each of my current ones, which cost me around $800 for the two.   BTW, the tab's Win 8, the notebook 8.1.  Both devices are touch interface, and I think Win 8's better for that than Win 7.  I haven't put a stopwatch to it, but it seems to me that Win 8's tiled Start kicks off programs faster than double-clicking on the desktop, and faster than the older "all programs" list from the start bar - if the PC's got a lot of programs on that list.  The only problem I have with Win 8 is that, if you buy an OEM PC or laptop, Microsoft now encrypts the activation code in the BIOS.  If the motherboard dies, Windows is gone.  MS refuses to reactivate it, claims that it "can't".  If you're buying a component PC, Win 8 System Builder retail OS can be reactivated if the worst happens.  Folks, this cautionary tale is true.  I know, because it happened to me, and even high-end international negotiation between MS and Samsung in my case didn't resolve it.  The retailer refunded, and MS is still facing state and federal consumer-advocacy bureaus here in Australia.  That's the most egregious thing that MS has ever tried, IMO.
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* February 17, 2014, 01:10:20 PM
#3
Cool equipment. Is the  500W power supply is sufficient?
Marek
« Last Edit: February 17, 2014, 01:16:15 PM by Marek »

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Marek

TC Pro 2016, TC Pro 2018, TC Plat 2019
Laptop Asus i7 6500U, dual-core 2,50GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M, RAM 12 GB, SSD 480GB
Windows 10 64 bit


February 17, 2014, 01:42:16 PM
#4
Cool equipment. Is the  500W power supply is sufficient?
Marek
No issues with the power supply. The computer people who built it said it would be lots. I did question them at the time about that because someone on this forum had questioned the size. I can't remember exactly what the computer builder said at the time but I remember it made sense, so I did not feel it needed to be changed.


* February 17, 2014, 04:15:04 PM
#5
Hi guys. Don_Jarr. I built my computerabout a year ago. I have a Intel i7 3770 3.4 Ghz., 16 GB. Ram, 1 TB. HD, and a Navidia Geforce GTX 550 Ti (2 GB video Ram). Built mainlt for flight simulators. Waiting to see how TurboCAD 21 and RedSDK 3.3 perform before deciding whether I need to upgrade my video card.

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TC 2017 Plat. x32 / x64 (LightWorks)
Win 10 Pro 64.
i7-3770 16 GB. Ram.
Nivda GeForce GTX 970 4 GB.


* February 18, 2014, 09:57:38 AM
#6
Have a look at the system I built about 14 months ago, a lot of the prices will have come down since then, it is an AMD FX8350 system and variants of it are really good pound for pound compared to intel I7's.

Here is the link to the thread.  http://forums.turbocad.com/index.php/topic,10495.msg62334.html#msg62334

This AMD FX8350 , only with a "ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AMD Gaming Motherboard", has beat the world overclocking speed a number of times in the last year or so with an overclocked speed of 8.67Ghz. 

Overclocking Data Link:-      http://valid.canardpc.com/records.php
« Last Edit: February 18, 2014, 10:11:51 AM by Michael Geraghty »

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* February 19, 2014, 08:46:51 AM
#7
Many thanks to everyone, just need to go sort out something within my budget.

Many thanks again.

:-)

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February 19, 2014, 11:57:15 AM
#8
I also have just bought a shiny new system.
Installed TC20.
redsdk doesn't like my graphics card.
The message pop up states my gpu is too new or too old so a default driver will be used.
The graphics card is an invidia GEFORCE 770 GTX  so too new I guess.

Just have to wait for redsdk to catch up with my graphics card.

 :'( :'(

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Dave C
TC Pro V14.2 - TC 21 Platinum 64 Bit Build 22.3
Intel i-4770K 3.5GHz
120GB ssd 2TB hd
16GB memory
64bit Windows 7 Pro

www.ipernity.com/fizzyfitz


February 19, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
#9
I am looking at the GeForce GTX750 Ti with the object of LOWERING my power requirements, the GTX750 Ti is a 60 watt card. But it is also a PCIe 3.0 card so unless I upgrade my PCIe 2.0 motherboard I'll lose some performance. Looks like I'll wait for the next card from Nvida with the Maxwell chip set and a display port connector. TC needs to talk with REDSDK about current device support upgrades without waiting for the "Next" version of TC.

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Production: W10 Pro V 1903 16GB NVIDIA Quadro


* February 19, 2014, 11:53:17 PM
#10
These powerful systems look very impressive. I would love to see their Render Test results.

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Gary Wooding
Win10 64-bit,
TC21.2 x64 Plat, Bld59
TC16.2 Plat, Bld54.0
TCC 3.5


* February 20, 2014, 02:28:16 AM
#11
Hi all

I was also looking at getting the  GeForce GTX 770 which from the redsdk site I found the other day with a huge list of graphics cards and said the gtx770 was compatible?

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February 20, 2014, 03:12:54 AM
#12
I have just run the lightwork render test and got a render time of 1min 32 seconds at 800 x 600, and 5min and 5 seconds at 1920 x 1200.

I have posted the screenshot of the message I get if I try to use redskd.

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Dave C
TC Pro V14.2 - TC 21 Platinum 64 Bit Build 22.3
Intel i-4770K 3.5GHz
120GB ssd 2TB hd
16GB memory
64bit Windows 7 Pro

www.ipernity.com/fizzyfitz


February 21, 2014, 02:28:28 PM
#13
0x1184   NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770   GK104   RED::HW_NVIDIA_G400
Windows 2000 driver   Unsupported hardware configuration
Windows XP 32 bits driver   NVIDIA Forceware 327.23
Windows XP 64 bits driver   NVIDIA Forceware 327.23
Windows Vista 32 bits driver   NVIDIA Forceware 327.23
Windows Vista 64 bits driver   NVIDIA Forceware 327.23
Windows Seven 32 bits driver   NVIDIA Forceware 327.23
Windows Seven 64 bits driver   NVIDIA Forceware 327.23
Windows Eight 32 bits driver   NVIDIA Forceware 327.23
Windows Eight 64 bits driver   NVIDIA Forceware 327.23

http://www.redway3d.com/pages/GPUList.php

The problem my be the version of REDSDK you have is not what REDSDK is shipping OR TC 19 was suppose to work with the 8800 GTX but it didn't, version 20 did.
It would be good if TC listed what works with their version of REDSDK which is 2 or 3 version behind the current shipping version from   Redway3d

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Production: W10 Pro V 1903 16GB NVIDIA Quadro


February 21, 2014, 02:51:39 PM
#14
So I guess I would have to wind back to an older driver to get redsdk to work then.
My driver is 334.89.

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Dave C
TC Pro V14.2 - TC 21 Platinum 64 Bit Build 22.3
Intel i-4770K 3.5GHz
120GB ssd 2TB hd
16GB memory
64bit Windows 7 Pro

www.ipernity.com/fizzyfitz


* February 21, 2014, 02:59:58 PM
#15
So I guess I would have to wind back to an older driver to get redsdk to work then.
My driver is 334.89.

Are you sure RedSDK doesn't work? The message you posted says, "...a default driver will be used while in RedSDK mode."

Henry H

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February 21, 2014, 03:32:44 PM
#16
Sorry Henry if I have caused any confusion about this.

Redsdk does work.
I have just bought a shiny new computer for TC and I would like to feel that I am getting the best performance that I can from it.
It just seems to me that if Redsdk is using a default driver as opposed to the gtx driver then I am not getting the best from my graphics card.

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Dave C
TC Pro V14.2 - TC 21 Platinum 64 Bit Build 22.3
Intel i-4770K 3.5GHz
120GB ssd 2TB hd
16GB memory
64bit Windows 7 Pro

www.ipernity.com/fizzyfitz


* December 22, 2014, 04:29:23 AM
#17
I've just bought a GTX 750 Ti 2GB, downloaded and installed the Forceware 344.11 driver (on Win 8.1 64 bit) with TC 21 Pro (fresh install) but TC still tells me that the card is too new and using default drivers. 

How do you force TC into using correct driver for RedSDK?

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* January 21, 2015, 08:58:38 PM
#18
I also have a GTX 750 Ti 2GB graphics card but I am running Windows 7 (sp1).  I have had the same problem with TC 21.2 Pro complaining about the recommended 344.11 driver.  I tried going to the previous version of the driver, 340.52, and TurboCAD seems to be happy with it.  If you are having the same sort of problems with your graphics driver, even when using the recommended version, try a different version.  Also be care about the nVidia notifications that you are running an out of date driver.  If you want RedSDK to work, don't update to the newest driver unless you want the hassle of rolling back to an older one later.

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