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A big thank you and a request for advice
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August 21, 2018, 01:23:32 PM
Hello Everyone,
I wanted to say a big heart felt thank you all of you that have helped me with my issues and requests to understand this blessid program.
Over this last year and a bit I have really enjoyed learning and then working with TC but unfortunately I will no longer be able to bug you all because the company i was working for have had to change their direction and so had to let me go :(, I was given this position when the company I was working for was purchased by this new one because they didn't need anyone in purchasing, which is my back ground.
I'm kinda bummed about this because I was enjoying the learning this new skill and the work so very much but I don't feel like i have enough time under my belt using this program to be able to follow this as a new career path and make the money i need to be making :(

If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.

Again thank you all very much I would have pulled my hair out if it wasn't for you all.

James

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* August 21, 2018, 04:29:33 PM
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I'm really sorry to hear that bad news, James, and I wish you the best of luck for the future.

Henry H

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* August 22, 2018, 12:31:30 PM
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All the best for the future James, whatever career path you choose.

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August 23, 2018, 05:18:00 AM
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I'm kinda bummed about this because I was enjoying the learning this new skill and the work so very much but I don't feel like i have enough time under my belt using this program to be able to follow this as a new career path and make the money i need to be making :(

Sorry to hear about your layoff.

Unlike you, I added TurboCAD to augment my usability rather than replacing one service with another.

Like you, I felt I did not have enough time to thoroughly learn the program, so I concentrated on the core group of commands that supported my needs and gradually expanded from there.  To this day, I have spent almost no time experimenting with Macros or Parametric Parts; RedSDK lighting is still a mystery to me (I have one of Don Cheke's tutorials, but I'm only up to p. 57).

I'd suggest one of the freelancer sites, but my experience that was that I needed 5 successful jobs before my proposals would be given preferential treatment (which make it more likely to be hired) and the money isn't likely to provide survival wages.  As I do that only when I have spare time from my regular consulting jobs (essentially the same as freelancing, except I have a regular group of clients), I am still learning slowly.

I wish I had happier advice to give you.  All I can say is, "Best of luck".


Jeff

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* August 24, 2018, 10:11:04 PM
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I've been fortunate enough to make a living as designer, drafter, modeller and general CAD jockey in both fulltime employment and  freelance for the past 20+ years.  I started with a shareware 3D program in the early '90s (it was called ProtoCAD, 16-bit CAD, MS-DOS, a lightweight clone of the AC version of the time.  Hand-tracing dot matrix fanfold paper printouts before there was a bureau with a plotter to deliver quality sheet drawings...) got into a company that used AutoCAD on the strength of that through the last MS-DOS versions and early Windows versions of AC, was doing a night school CAD course (it was notionally generalist "CAD", but was taught on AC because that was most common) when IMSI was trying to get TC into the college while selling it on magazine CDs too, and I started working with TC then.  Since then I've also worked commercially with Alibre, PunchCAD and FreeCAD, and done a little with subdivision, mesh-based and facet-based modellers.  My best tip is don't be a program specialist, be a generalist.  I love TC because its interface makes the most sense visually and spatially to me, and its as powerful as most other CAD apps, more so in many ways.  But outlier capabilities are hardly needed in CAD.  Most CAD apps are at a similar functional level of capability and usability, but with different philosophies and interfaces.  Tools aren't identified with the same name, but if you can recognise them by what they do rather than what they're called, you can do the same work with different apps.  My professional portfolio has examples of the same sophisticated models built in versions of TC, PunchCAD, Alibre/Geomagic, even FreeCAD.  That catches employers' eyes, and I've been given the opportunity to move sideways within companies instead of suffering redundancy or layoff because it's shown adaptability, and I've also had companies come back to me for specialist contract CAD work after they've laid me off, so I guess I've been part of the gig economy movement since long before it was called that.    I regard myself as a CAD specialist, not a program specialist, and being able to demonstrate that to employers puts me in the frame for more gigs.  Right now I'm on board with a small shop as their go-to modeller to feed files to their 3D printer, which I get the use of when they don't require it.  They don't care what app I use to build the models, and the CAD work is my property, only the end result is theirs.       
Even if the loss of that job denies you access to TC now, keep learning with open-source and free modelling and CAD apps like Blender and FreeCAD.  Build a portfolio of models in those apps, with supporting paper drawings and renders that show off what you've learned, and they'll carry even more weight done in those apps.   They're a direct reference to employers and contractors who could use you, and once you've got a foot in the door, good quality work will give them confidence in you, and in my experience they'll often refer other work to you, or subcontract to it themselves, then refer it to you and take a cut.   Be an opportunist.  Try to stay upbeat and, if you want to work with CAD, build on what you've already learned, don't write it off.       

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* August 24, 2018, 11:15:45 PM
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I agree with Murray if you enjoy cad ,your journey doesn't need to end here. Download a few trial versions of other cad packages -
learn how they do things.
There are a few open source cad packages to keep you busy - the more programs you are familiar with the more job opportunities you will have.

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August 28, 2018, 12:03:37 PM
#6
Hi Guys,
Thank you all for the kindness and words of encouragement, I'm had no luck so far but its early days.
I am keeping a very positive attitude and I have managed to put together a portfolio (Of sorts) from my the work I was doing.
I contacted them ans asked if I could get copies of the work I had done and they sent me mostly everything so I am very happy with that.
Added this to my LinkedIn and other profiles.

Thank you for the good advice I will continue practicing on the free downloads and trials to hone my skills. I just wish my home PC wasn't so slow and under powered :( hahahah

thanks again

James



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August 29, 2018, 02:18:23 PM
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Thank you all for the kindness and words of encouragement, I'm had no luck so far but its early days.
I am keeping a very positive attitude and I have managed to put together a portfolio (Of sorts) from my the work I was doing.

You can also do a search for Freelancing websites that list CAD among their categories.  I have had some success on Upwork (https://www.upwork.com/).  You can create a free account and bid on up to 30 jobs per month.  Speaking from experience, you need 5 jobs under your belt before Upwork elevates your proposal so that it is seen sooner (also, Upwork adds a Job Success score to your profile).  Subscribing to their professional tier allows you to see the range of bids from your competition and I wouldn't be surprised if it also elevates your proposal even higher than the completed-5-jobs competitors.  It took me months of offering very low bids to get 5 job awards, but after that, I started winning jobs at a much higher rate.


Jeff


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August 29, 2018, 05:46:23 PM
#8
Hi everyone
So after speaking with my old company they told me they will no longer be needing the TC program and so if I wanted it I could have it :) So I am a very happy chappy right now :)  Although my home PC is very wimpy so I will have to look into beefing it up a bit before I can use it. Took nearly 6 hours just download!!!!!
In fact when i try and open it I get an error message of...
R6034 "An application has made an attempt to load ATL80.DLL incorrectly, Please contact the applications support team for more information."
So that sucks but I will investigate this issue.

Jeff, I was also coming on here to say that I have just registered on upwork.com hahahahah but thank you for the advice for that site :)

Doing a happy dance :)

James

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August 30, 2018, 04:34:49 AM
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In fact when i try and open it I get an error message of...
R6034 "An application has made an attempt to load ATL80.DLL incorrectly, Please contact the applications support team for more information."
So that sucks but I will investigate this issue.

Depending on which operating system you are using, it may behoove you to uninstall TurboCAD and re-install in Administrator Mode (right-click on the installation file and select from the popup menu).


Jeff, I was also coming on here to say that I have just registered on upwork.com hahahahah but thank you for the advice for that site :)

Best of luck with that.


Jeff

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August 30, 2018, 10:23:45 AM
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Jeff,
Im confused about upwork.com, can you see the requested work before submitting a proposal?
Because when i am looking I see jobs that sound like I could do them but don't know how complected they are so I don't know the length of time they would take?

James

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August 30, 2018, 10:06:31 PM
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The amount of work to be done will not always be in the job posting.  In many cases, the poster does not know what is to be done; he just wants to get rich and needs someone else to do all the inventing.  In others, it's pretty complete (but not always correct).


Jeff

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January 07, 2019, 11:06:40 AM
#12
Hello, Everyone :) I'm Back :) I got my job back so happy :)

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January 07, 2019, 06:21:35 PM
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Congratulations.


Jeff

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January 09, 2019, 10:36:08 AM
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Thanks

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