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Is there a limit on Paper Space quantity?
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July 13, 2016, 03:11:58 PM
I see a project solicitation where the obvious (to me, at least) solution would be upwards of 100 different Paper Spaces.  Is there a practical limit on the number of Paper Spaces that can be part of each document?


Thanks in advance,

Jeff

« Last Edit: July 13, 2016, 03:13:30 PM by Jeffin90620 »

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July 18, 2016, 01:19:49 PM
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Jeff,

Technically there is no limit. Practically it's whatever your RAM can handle.

In order to print all those out to one pdf file you'll have to use TurboPDF. Otherwise it will expect you to print them all out to separate pdfs. There's a setting in TurboPDF that let's you print them all to one file. I'll find out what that is and let you know.

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July 18, 2016, 01:24:05 PM
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see attached screen shot for the magic TurboPDF checkbox

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July 18, 2016, 02:48:48 PM
#3
Thanks for the info.  I do, occasionally, have to print multi-page PDFs.


Jeff


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* July 23, 2016, 12:16:51 AM
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Jeff

I'm using TurboPDF and it is extremely flexible, security of the output is key and also that as its a printer driver itself
is the jewel in the crown. It's like having an extra printer available.

Darryl


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* July 23, 2016, 12:38:34 AM
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In discussions just like you about the limit of paperspace, fwiw, there should be no limit
other your pc's ram. But to store many different print jobs over multi paperspace may well blow out your
file size.

Now looking into TurboPDF's ability to use stylesheets or using the electronic form options to store the
the ( drawn by, date, revision etc, template data  )  mapped to specific location inside a generic document.

Some drawing data needs to be printed to A3, others to A4, Travis came up with a cool solution of employing
the template data inside a block and the adding the attributes for each print job within the block.

That way I dont blow my file size out the window, thereby making it slooow to load. ( Im using an i7 processor  ).

An alternative could be that I run two or more copies of the same drawing, but then if changes need to made I see
mistakes happening.

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July 23, 2016, 10:35:27 PM
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On an unrelated issue, I was told not to use Blocks in paper space.

So... what's the official stance on this?


Jeff


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* July 23, 2016, 11:52:04 PM
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Jeff

Based on my idea of using TurboPDF is not the solution.

I too need answers on this, don't want to know who said dont use blocks in paperspace but why did they say it?

Looked up the help file and it covers in detail using block attributes for my exact needs, turbocad also
produced a video "entity marks_property sets.mp4". (In one of my recent posts Travis said use this solution). That
said and if I do commit to this method then I believe that I will most likely run 2 copies and of course backups.

Why you might ask, just recently I started using grouped layers and now they're fine ( but I discovered that if
your not careful with your first setup tc crashed on me five times ), this was most likely my fault but I did notice the help file didn't answer editing procedures completely. Also noticed that a bunch holes in a sheetmetal plate
got lost or deleted ( most likely me again  ) by accident were I probably crunched a series of points.

I guess after this my point is that when everything is kept within 1 file, drawings, dimensions, paperspace
printing etc etc, I hope I dont get a corrupted file as one if my main drawings is now 44.2mb.

Thanks

Darryl

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* July 24, 2016, 12:00:55 AM
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See http://forums.turbocad.com/index.php/topic,13811.msg80029.html#msg80029

by Don Cheke, covers the very issue of Blocks in paperspace.


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July 25, 2016, 08:58:04 AM
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Hey guys,

I'm unaware of any reason to shy away from using blocks in paper space. I have actually trained an entire classroom of folks at the Board of Elections in New York to do just that in order to make use of the block attributes functionality when creating maps of polling locations. I talked to Dave Taylor and he agreed.

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* July 25, 2016, 10:11:15 AM
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There is nearly no reason at all to not use it, but if you are like me, a bit lazy :)
And the drawings basically have 8 P spaces with an area for basic info about the drawing
then it is more easy and handy to use a viewport i think, in a drawing based on my template, i fill in all the basic info 1 time, finish.
I have different standard info in different layers i can choose from in the P Space's viewport
All the pages have an area for spesific info about that page, and now comes the lazy part :), i dont need to use Block Edit, i can change directly in M Space ;);)
And i will never even dream about inserting a Block in all this 8 P Spaces everytime, to get spesific attribute values for each page

But, and it is a very very big but, i cant use the info from the Block's to make a "Drawing list" and send together with the drawings, luckily i dont need to, in the kind of projects i normally work with, maybe that is one of the reasons ??

Torfinn

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* July 25, 2016, 09:16:11 PM
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I use a block with attributes.
I have found that I can use a database and the database connect palette to change attributes.
So my template has a few paper spaces with different title blocks for different sizes.
I fill the data in on the database and link the  title block to the entry on the database.

Unfortunately I think this only works with the 32 bit version.

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* July 26, 2016, 01:34:28 AM
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Hey Nikki

That sounds like a cool idea could you share an example of the db data attributes?

What database do you use? I wonder if this could be done via excel?

Thanks

Darryl

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