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Title: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Vlad Veselov on November 06, 2018, 08:36:38 AM
Has anyone read this book about TurboCAD 2018? What did you think?

Using TurboCAD in technical professions
For draftsmen, technicians, and engineers
Matthias Bosse

BoD – Books on Demand, Jul 17, 2018

https://books.google.ru/books?id=fuhhDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35&dq=turbocad+Format+Painter+presets&source=bl&ots=z7oSEfvg-y&sig=JVvJ2OSs411a--rpXkG9bZSngTI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj14ZK85Z_eAhUF_SoKHQhuAbcQ6AEwAnoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=turbocad%20Format%20Painter%20presets&f=false

https://www.bod.de/buchshop/using-turbocad-in-technical-professions-matthias-bosse-9783746098708


Vlad
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Torfinn on November 06, 2018, 09:04:35 AM
Thanks for the links Vlad

I have not read it, but for sure the preview looks great for starting to use TC.
And also a big help for people who dont like to/ can watch video and it is possible to get paperback aswell if they have bad net.
Price, pretty fair to cheap in my opinion.

Maybe an idea to put the link for it up in the Help section.

Torfinn
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Vlad Veselov on November 06, 2018, 09:28:16 AM
Thanks for the links Vlad
Welcome Torfinn,

This case seemed interesting to me. I was looking for information/articles about the "Format Painter" and found this material.
I liked the fact that the author of the book knows a lot of details.

Vlad

Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: John R on November 06, 2018, 03:28:28 PM
Looks interesting. I wonder if it's the same people that used to write the German language Help. I see that TurboCAD 2018 doesn't have a "Bedienerhandbuch (Deutsch)".
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: NigelG on November 11, 2018, 10:27:29 AM
I've had a quick look at the review version via the link above. It certainly looks very useful, actually tells you how to use TurboCAD, but how applicable would it be to TC 19 Deluxe, which is the edition I have?
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: sauerkraut2018 on November 11, 2018, 08:12:32 PM
Hi,

my PDF manual version 17 (not 2017) already had 1168 pages.

I wonder if you can describe TurboCad on 264 pages?
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Torfinn on November 12, 2018, 12:40:42 AM
No you cant, and the original UG paperback version for TC v 17 is on 726 pages

The book here is for beginners, explained the setup etc very well and take the user true case to make them understand the basic by example.
Then the user need to explore TC him/ her self, no book can explaine all different scenario's depending of what a user can understand and/ or want to learn something about.
They need to test, see what work for them on the subject they try to draw, sort of learning to walk, you can read the basic of how to, but you do need to do some trial and errors before you figure out what works for you.

Torfinn
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: sauerkraut2018 on November 12, 2018, 01:12:51 AM
Hi Torfinn,

I want to confirm your information.

Correction: In the English version  ...UG paperback version for TC v 17 is on 726 pages.
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Jeffin90620 on November 13, 2018, 01:00:04 PM
I couldn't see the link (it said I had too many page views of this book, which is... odd).

I did find it on Amazon, with associated links to other TurboCAD books: https://www.amazon.com/Using-Turbocad-Technical-Professions-Matthias/dp/374609870X/ (https://www.amazon.com/Using-Turbocad-Technical-Professions-Matthias/dp/374609870X/)


Jeff
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Torfinn on November 13, 2018, 03:57:43 PM
I also got that Jeff, but open the index and selected first or something of the different parts let me watch it.
I believe they run true it and let it be in the end when they made it, so Google or whatever believe you already have seen all the pages :)

Torfinn
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Kevin Taylor on November 13, 2018, 07:20:47 PM
I picked up a copy of this off amazon after seeing the post. Not because I need it or I am struggling with turbocad. I actually think I have become somewhat proficient with the software now. But when I first started using turbocad, I had never used a cad package before, and had zero experience with cad. I actually gave up on turbocad twice, and only gave it a third shot after I found out about Dons website textual creations. If it wasnt for him and his tutorials, id be using a different cad package today. All that being said, I wish I had this book when I first started turbocad. It is actually a decent little read.

Now if you have had experience with other cad packages before using turbocad, you probably would not have any trouble at all learning it. But for anyone like me who had never used a cad package before...well learning turbocad isnt so easy. Its like a big black hole. There is a reason (other than being free) that fusion 360 and sketchup took off like wild fire. Thats becuase they understood that the software they made was only as good as its user. You can tell large amounts of time, resources and money went into training and learning materials with these packages.

Dont get me wrong, I love turbocad, and love using it...but it wasnt always like that. Is this book worth $50? I dont know, I suppose thats relative. But when IMSI charges $75 for a 1hr training session, $50 doesnt look so bad. I will say this is a nice and really the only book on turbocad, and if you are new to cad and need to learn tcad, Dons tutorials should be considered a must. He has some free ones on youtube and all are highly recommended. I think Ive done 5 of his tutorials now, and will probably buy at least one a year from him just to keep me on my feet as I am not an everyday cad user.
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Jeffin90620 on November 13, 2018, 07:48:29 PM
I actually gave up on turbocad twice, and only gave it a third shot after I found out about Dons website textual creations. If it wasnt for him and his tutorials, id be using a different cad package today.

I don't know that I would be on a different CAD package today, but one of Don's tutorials got me up and running in short order.


Jeff
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: NigelG on November 14, 2018, 05:26:35 PM
Thank you for those very helpful comments, Kevin.

My own experience is very similar, struggling to learn very complicated, professional-grade software, alone, and from no previous CAD experience! In fact I had abandoned it in despair for fairly lengthy spells at least twice.

I have a couple of generic CAD primers, but although these give the basics, obviously they are not manuals for specific makes.

I'm not sure how easy it is to buy here. I don't have an account with Amazon etc., and may have to ask a major bookseller to order it for me despite probably a resulting mark-up, but if I can sure the TurboCAD version it describes is close enough to my own (19 Deluxe) then I think it would be worth my buying it. 


Just spent the evening re-designing a small steam-engine crankshaft to establish my best way to make it. This is in 2D, as the workshop drawing I would need anyway, and even then I struggled with some aspects despite the long elevation being essentially a series of rectangles (cylindrical parts really, in end elevation). However, I did follow that by trying to make a slightly simplified 3D image of it - it's sort of there but rather odd in places!
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Frank Ansuini on November 21, 2018, 11:27:18 AM
Nigel,
I bought a copy of this book on eBay as I prefer it to Amazon (I can use PayPal on eBay).  Your profile says that you are from the UK so I checked eBay and found this listing from a UK vendor.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Using-Turbocad-in-Technical-Professions-by-Matthias-Bosse-9783746098708/253811974761?epid=10021436655&hash=item3b185f6269:g:l2EAAOSwKStbjHK8:rk:8:pf:0
Frank
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: NigelG on December 10, 2018, 02:05:50 PM
Thank you Frank.

Sorry I took a while to come back here, but it wasn't helped by the wretched forum, not me, forgetting my password every couple of weeks!

Best Wishes,
Nigel
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Matthias Bosse on February 01, 2019, 08:48:31 AM
Hello,
thanks a lot for your feedback on my book. I appreciate the discussion here in this forum! Let me comment some of your posts.

Looks interesting. I wonder if it's the same people that used to write the German language Help. I see that TurboCAD 2018 doesn't have a "Bedienerhandbuch (Deutsch)".

No, the official help or manuals come from "GK Planungssoftware" which is the reseller here in Germany.

Thanks for the links Vlad
Welcome Torfinn, This case seemed interesting to me. I was looking for information/articles about the "Format Painter" and found this material.I liked the fact that the author of the book knows a lot of details.Vlad

Thank you Vlad! I appreciate your feedback!

Thanks for the links Vlad I have not read it, but for sure the preview looks great for starting to use TC.
And also a big help for people who dont like to/ can watch video and it is possible to get paperback aswell if they have bad net.
Price, pretty fair to cheap in my opinion. Maybe an idea to put the link for it up in the Help section. Torfinn

Good idea, I wouldn't say no ;)

Hi, my PDF manual version 17 (not 2017) already had 1168 pages. I wonder if you can describe TurboCad on 264 pages?

Torfinn already answered that correctly. My book is not intended as a substitute for the official help but as a starting point for beginners. In my personal opinion, a 1000 page manual is not really motivating when starting a new software :-D

Thanks again for your feedback and please don't hesitate to get in touch with me to discuss any kind of questions, critics or suggestions.
Regards,
Matthias
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Kevin on February 07, 2019, 07:55:39 PM
Hello,
thanks a lot for your feedback on my book. I appreciate the discussion here in this forum! Let me comment some of your posts.

Looks interesting. I wonder if it's the same people that used to write the German language Help. I see that TurboCAD 2018 doesn't have a "Bedienerhandbuch (Deutsch)".

No, the official help or manuals come from "GK Planungssoftware" which is the reseller here in Germany.

Thanks for the links Vlad
Welcome Torfinn, This case seemed interesting to me. I was looking for information/articles about the "Format Painter" and found this material.I liked the fact that the author of the book knows a lot of details.Vlad

Thank you Vlad! I appreciate your feedback!

Thanks for the links Vlad I have not read it, but for sure the preview looks great for starting to use TC.
And also a big help for people who dont like to/ can watch video and it is possible to get paperback aswell if they have bad net.
Price, pretty fair to cheap in my opinion. Maybe an idea to put the link for it up in the Help section. Torfinn

Good idea, I wouldn't say no ;)

Hi, my PDF manual version 17 (not 2017) already had 1168 pages. I wonder if you can describe TurboCad on 264 pages?

Torfinn already answered that correctly. My book is not intended as a substitute for the official help but as a starting point for beginners. In my personal opinion, a 1000 page manual is not really motivating when starting a new software :-D

Thanks again for your feedback and please don't hesitate to get in touch with me to discuss any kind of questions, critics or suggestions.
Regards,
Matthias

An Ebook version would be a good thing and perhaps less expensive...
Title: Re: Book "Using TurboCAD in technical professions"
Post by: Matthias Bosse on February 14, 2019, 01:51:52 AM
An Ebook version would be a good thing and perhaps less expensive...

Already available as an Ebook version!