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V19 - Another Bedroom Advanced Render
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March 21, 2012, 05:07:27 PM
Getting to grips with AR a bit more now....

Now we don't have the crashing anymore we can experiment without frustration.... well almost.... ;D

Edit 25/04/12

Final image edit with LED plinth lights, fully carpeted floor and improved interior lighting/Sun.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2012, 02:25:41 PM by Darrel Carl Durose »

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March 21, 2012, 05:43:58 PM
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Absolutely great Darrel!

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March 21, 2012, 05:52:40 PM
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Thanks Brad......

I have been messing around with the amount of intensity of FG and keeping AO to the minimum.

To much AO has two issues, one being the materials that are none glossy look completely matt and two, the image becomes a bit flat and washed out...

Still a way to go...... quite a reasonable render time at this resolution....about an hour!


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March 22, 2012, 07:04:27 AM
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Hi Darrel, good work. Nice.

What to use lights and luminance?

Majo

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March 22, 2012, 07:58:06 AM
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Thanks Majo.....

Yeah Luminance and 2 standard lights for a bit of fill so I don't have to wait an eternity for the "Gather Indirect" process...

Slovak:

Vďaka Majo .....

Jo, jasu a 2 Å¡tandardné svetlá pre trochu vyplniť, takže nemám čakať celú večnosť na "Zhromaždite nepriame" procesu ...
« Last Edit: May 28, 2012, 11:34:13 AM by Darrel Carl Durose »

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March 22, 2012, 11:46:10 PM
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Pretty believable.

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March 23, 2012, 12:07:49 AM
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Excellently done.

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March 23, 2012, 10:11:55 AM
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Thanks Guys..... :)

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March 26, 2012, 08:12:10 AM
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Great looking room Darrel. Is this modeled off a room in your house or something for a client?


March 26, 2012, 08:28:14 AM
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Thanks Don...

Something for a client's son....They gave me their outline for it and I designed it and made suggestions to improve upon...

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* March 26, 2012, 05:10:31 PM
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Darrel,
      Just wondering what material you will use for the actual cabinetry to get the highly reflective finish?  High gloss plastic laminate? Renders look great.

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March 26, 2012, 05:37:54 PM
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Thanks Mr Extra...The material will be Gloss White MFC and a standard textured Blue MFC....all PVC edged...

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* March 26, 2012, 08:05:51 PM
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Thanks Mr Extra...The material will be Gloss White MFC and a standard textured Blue MFC....all PVC edged...

What is MFC?

Henry H

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March 26, 2012, 11:11:57 PM
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Henry - MFC = Melamine Faced Chipboard....

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* March 27, 2012, 10:15:24 AM
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Henry - MFC = Melamine Faced Chipboard....

Thanx.

Henry H

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* March 27, 2012, 04:51:04 PM
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Really pretty, Darrel.  I think the knotty pine floor's especially plausible.

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March 28, 2012, 04:06:34 AM
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Thanks Murray...  :)

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* March 30, 2012, 11:07:54 AM
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Nice work Darrel,  How do you get the image on the TV?  Do you wrap a picture to it?  If so how much do you have to play with the scale to get it to look right?

The pulls look custom, are going to make those as well?

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March 30, 2012, 11:15:51 AM
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Thanks Dan,
The image is a material wrapping, the sizing is easy, the offsetting is usually half the image size to get it central and a few test renders to check...

The pulls/handles are what the customer wants to use, he supplied a photo of the design he wants, we cannot source them so they are going to search for them...see pic below:

« Last Edit: July 18, 2012, 01:09:40 PM by Darrel Carl Durose »

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* March 30, 2012, 11:51:21 AM
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That's awesome Darrel, I especially love the bar code rugs.  :)

I have been too chicken to play much with materials and rendering.  Too much to get my head around yet.  I'm still trying to get a good handle on the modeling first.  I did get inspired by Don Cheke recently though with one of his latest turbocad tips.  He makes it look so easy.  So I tried putting a picture image on a box to look like a TV like you did.  Wasn't so easy for me.  I did get it though.  Took a lot of playing with the scaling.

Once you get the image wrapped, do you save the TV to the library for future use?  Do you ever change the images like changing channels?  Or resize the object.  Do you have to then rescale the image?

Thanks Darrel, and sorry to be a PITA.

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March 30, 2012, 12:06:55 PM
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Image wrapping is easy when you get your head around it....You mention scaling.....for exact wrapping it is best to leave the scaling factor at "1" and use the dimensions which are based on your current drawings dimensions parameters.... I use Millimetres....

The image I grabbed from the internet and scaled and cropped the pixels it to match the screen size....

And yes, the modelling is the first thing to get right......

Nearly all the details in my designs are xref blocks which are stored files by themselves, this keeps the customer design files small as xrefs are only loaded when the main file is opened.

I find that rather than creating new materials all the time and re-applying them to geometry is to re-use existing ones....the Screen for example....I just created one called 23" Screen image. This has two benefits, one - the xrefs materials can be updated without having to open the xref, edit the materials, save and reload in the customers file, two - you don't end up with thousands for materials that are hard to find etc....
And you are not a PITA lol....

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* March 30, 2012, 12:17:11 PM
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Thanks Darrel,  I definitely want to get more into the rendering, hopefully before too long.  This should help me quite a bit when I do take another stab at it.  Sound like you have worked out a very efficient system to your designs.  Great tip.

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March 30, 2012, 12:25:35 PM
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Your welcome...
I will post some details about the wrapping of the TV screen when I get chance....I currently have a bedroom design rendering so I don't want to interrupt it... ;D
 
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* March 30, 2012, 09:26:22 PM
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I agree, I have gotten a lot of help already(mostly from lurking) and am very thankful for the wealth of knowledge that oozes from the genius's that roam this forum.

I just recently upgraded from V16 Deluxe to V18 Platinum build 73.1.  Way more than I am capable of using.  Just this morning I started a model of one of my router bases, I don't think I could have done this with the V16, at least not without a great many headaches, and a whole heap more time.  After I stopped for the day, I felt like I had just gotten a peek behind the curtain where you Tcad wizards reside, and began to understand how some of these amazing drawings are born and evolve.  Way cool. 

 Since I haven't gotten into rendering yet, I haven't run into the "out of memory" many of you have had.  So I am happy with V18 for now.  I am still searching for a good way to input my cabinet part dimensions and name info directly into cutlist plus for a BOM and optimized part layouts.  If the developers can do that before I find another way, I likely will bite on that upgrade as well.  Also I am looking for a better way to create and scale 5 piece cabinet doors as well, though that is for another post later. 

The past year or so I have played with some drawing ideas for logo design I want to create for a cabinet shop I hope to be able to turn into full time.  I am thinking I might like to post it to get any ideas for the design and rendering, once I settle on the direction I want to go with it.  It won't be so much about the rendering I have done to it but what others may come up with instead.  Am I correct that the Gallery is the right place to do so?

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March 31, 2012, 01:56:51 AM
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Yes, the Gallery is the best place to post...

When you get into rendering you will hit the wall with the OOM problem...... make sure you save before hitting the render button!

The Furniture maker plugin/add-on is very good for creating part lists and for scaling and stretching cabinets that you mention.... the only problem I have with it is that for me to properly make use of it, is it not to have the door design options hidden away on a layer. The two problems with this are one - the size the file grows and the other is if I want a new door design all the models need updating which isn't practical.

With regards to your scaling issue..... I take it you are having the problem of side slab deformation....where the stiles or rails of the door deform... I wish TC had the ability to lock certain dimensions so if you resize it as a whole, this does not happen...
The easiest way at the moment is to make all the parts of the door "surfaces" and the you can "node edit" and stretch it..... this is a tool also made a little easier in the Furniture Maker add-on....

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* March 31, 2012, 06:31:27 AM
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I have wondered about the FM plugin, but wasn't sure that it would be the answer I am looking for.  I think I am going to explore parametric parts first to see what I can do with that.

Side slab deformation.... that is exactly the problem. I wish TC had the ability to lock certain dimensions so if you resize it as a whole, this does not happen.  Me too!!  I guess there is some small comfort in knowing even the pros have this same problem.

I will have more questions about these things later, however, I have been guilty of "hijacking threads" before, so in the interest of keeping the peace, I will stop here and ask more questions in other posts.  Thanks for your input thus far.

Dan

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* April 12, 2012, 10:54:06 AM
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Darrel that last image is fantastic! Did you model everything in the room? IF so How did you model the bedcloth? Are the shag rugs displaced or modeled? Love the shoes and objects on desk. Really nice work.


* April 12, 2012, 12:47:13 PM
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Ok sorry about that, It is so hard to tell what is real or not these days ;D