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Turbocad to archicad
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* April 13, 2019, 01:55:26 AM
Hello,

As my company is getting better am thinking about upgrading my architectural design software to archicad solo with octane render and keep turbocad for modeling, I've got pro plat and I like it. Has anyone tried to export models? I know that tc got long list of supported files but also I know from experience that they not always working to the end.   At the moment looks like rhino exp and impo looks ok.

Thank you
Lech

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* April 13, 2019, 10:33:39 PM
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I have. Honestly I would choose one or the other not both.
The two programs don't really play nicely together.
Theoretically the best way to share BIM projects is to save in the  IFC format.
Turbocad saves to IFC but component walls and openings in walls don't save properly.
the walls have to basically be redrawn at the Archicad end.

I eventually saved my project as a DWG file which meant that all the BIM information was lost but the model was perfect.

I have also thought of upgrading to archicad and have trialed it a few times. I decided to stay with Turbocad as I don't share my projects that often.
Archicad is powerful because of the scripted objects. The platinum version of TC has scripted objects, they are much simpler then Archicad GdL objects, but that only means that they are easier to write.
Archicad has the ability to convert an object in a drawing to a scripted object which is quicker, but you still need to understand the scripting to tweak it. 
You might want to explore Turbocads other features before committing yourself to a more expensive program - with a subscription. The only reason I would change programs is if I wanted a truly BIM program.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2019, 11:10:11 PM by nikkipollard »

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* April 14, 2019, 12:29:19 AM
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Thank you Nikki,

I will try to use tc for modeling additional objects, please see attached pics, the bar was done in tc and imported as rhino, will try with IFC later, I've got pro plat 2018, in my opinion tc is much better in modelling. Archicad solo and octan rendering engine saves me lots of time on paperwork, takeoff for qs etc. Rendering don't require so much time. TC DWG export isn't working properly,  every time  I want to send my drawings to other companies there is something wrong. Also bimx viewer with vr  can become very good marketing point. I'm designing, doing the specs, building regs and program, then managing whole project. It's handy to have all easy accessible.

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* April 14, 2019, 02:10:48 AM
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If it is just objects - not walls with components or openings IFC format seems to save Ok - you do lose some detail espescially with curves so it might not be worth the effort. Rhino might be a better option. - I hadn't thought of that.

 
« Last Edit: April 14, 2019, 02:19:49 AM by nikkipollard »

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* April 14, 2019, 07:54:30 AM
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I've open you file in tc and ac please see attachments. Have you made it in tc?
I will try to do some more in tc and see if it will work for me.

Lech

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* April 14, 2019, 10:00:01 AM
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The Objects Nikki show is ppm's i believe and if explode  it will be polylines or solids etc, that work nice in IFC format

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* April 14, 2019, 10:56:12 PM
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Yes they were just "objects" I had available as I mainly use ppms I dragged a few from the library I had open. (They don't need to be ppms. )

Obviously if you are using archicad - you would have tools that have these objects built into the program.
Your TC objects would be modeled your way and imported. From your picture it looks like they open in Archicad without problems.


I suggested IFC because theoretically the intelligent information is maintained.
 For example when you save a file with a TC stair(or other AEC object)  the staircase is defined as an IFC Stair, the BIM program you open it in should be able to see it as a staircase. I am not sure if the parameters are maintained I would assume that depends on the way the parameters are defined in the IFC filter. Your engineer might use another program. You would be able to use his IFC model in your program - without losing information along the way. An IPE 200 beam in the engineers model would be an IPE 200 when opened with your program. Fire ratings etc will all be available - that is if they were set in the first place. As I said this is all the theory.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2019, 11:27:03 PM by nikkipollard »

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* April 15, 2019, 03:06:18 AM
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With regard to schedules.
 I have always just used the database connect palette and reports to generate schedules.
I havent tried it, but I see that TC 2019 has added an IFC manager which hopefully would allow you to manage objects pretty much the same way that other BIM software does.

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* Today at 02:26:51 AM
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AHH my pc has died

Had hp 800 g1, i7-4790 with 1060 6gt oc, and my board just died.
Ordered new 650w PSU and asus q87m-e mb. Durning the research I've found some interesting facts, 2 1060 outperforms 980ti, 1080 and it's cheaper. Also I've already got one 1060. And octane don't want sli. It's shame that tc rendering doesn't work with octane.
https://youtu.be/K1QlU6IhGAw

Also price for 2x 1060 6gb oc is 340 where 1080 is 460+, as I've got one already, could get another one or used 980 and should be flying for extra £170

If I get something like that https://youtu.be/jGXmsUnbPCM with it, am happy :)
« Last Edit: Today at 02:49:17 AM by Lech1982 »

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* Today at 02:05:11 PM
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Installed new parts, with 1060 and k4000 I've managed to get 109 points in octane benchmark, very close to 980 :) nice one

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