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Quick pull some faces but not others
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* March 10, 2019, 10:31:46 AM
I have version 2016 Professional.
Some faces will quick pull fine but, once pulled once, "may not" alllow for further quick pulls. In that instance the face will highlight in a dull yellow instead of the red hatch.
Some faces will not allow quick pull at all and just shows up in a dull yellow.
All of the above will occur on a single object. Any ideas please?
Dave Steward

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* March 10, 2019, 12:40:22 PM
#1
Yeah, that happens. In many cases, Facet Editing or Facet Offset can substitute for Quick Pull.

Henry H

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March 10, 2019, 04:56:43 PM
#2
I have seen that problem less often with more recent versions of TurboCAD.  Even when dull yellow is the highlight mechanism, I can still pull facets about half the time.

Occasionally, usually with more complex objects, it takes a while to respond to a Quick Pull and it becomes much more difficult to get the desired result.  Better to lock the desired pull distance before trying to do the pull, then wait for it to respond.

I haven't really dug into it, but I wouldn't be surprised that a long, involved ACIS History is the cause.  You may want to experiment with Exploding objects before modifying them if you are having problem.


Jeff

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* March 10, 2019, 07:36:09 PM
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A quirk is that quick pull recognises enclosed figures drawn on flat surfaces as regions, so if you trace the face's outline, or pass a section on the face you're trying to pull, then explode it, in my experience quick pull will magically work.  Even bisecting the face with a line across it will let you pull it in two segments.     
« Last Edit: March 10, 2019, 07:40:32 PM by murray dickinson »

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* March 10, 2019, 10:22:54 PM
#4
The new versions have a combination quick pull and facet offset (greeny yellow) Where TC decides which option you want. Try holding the control key to force it to switch to quick pull - that sometimes works for me.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2019, 10:24:31 PM by nikkipollard »

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* March 10, 2019, 11:00:55 PM
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...... Where TC decides which option you want..

Wow. 

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March 11, 2019, 12:22:27 AM
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The new versions have a combination quick pull and facet offset (greeny yellow) Where TC decides which option you want. Try holding the control key to force it to switch to quick pull - that sometimes works for me.

Well, that is certainly an undocumented (if unreliable) feature.


Jeff

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* March 11, 2019, 06:54:40 AM
#7
Not just me then!!!
As suggested I tried a Facet Offset (new to me), then I could use the quick pull tool.

It's one thing learning to use TurboCad, but it seems that we need to have lion taming skills as well.

Thanks for the help.
Dave Steward

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* March 11, 2019, 05:32:59 PM
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Murray great tip on using lines on faces, that opens up new possibilities.
Nikki I couldnt get the control key to work but I did notice that there are optional commands on the inspector bar when quick pull is active.

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* March 12, 2019, 12:03:03 AM
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Weird, Try this
with the quick pull tool active hover over the face you want to pull.
If it highlights green , hold the control key down - and the red crosses should show. right click with the mouse.
At the bottom in the inspector bar you can fill a height parameter in.
If you had right clicked when the edges were green the parameter in the inspector bar says offset.
 
It doesn't seem to work when the object has a history with a blended edge.
 The first icon is defaulted to breaking the part tree of the object - when activated the part will become an ACIS solid after using the tool.
 The second one detects blends. - I am not sure how that works because blends are detected with or without it active
« Last Edit: March 12, 2019, 12:30:57 AM by nikkipollard »

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