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Dimension is rotated when placed
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January 19, 2019, 03:38:36 AM
I have no idea why this dimension is rotated when placed.  I confirmed World view and Workplane by View, then this happens.

How do I prevent this from happening?


Jeff

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* January 19, 2019, 08:11:54 AM
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In my experimentation with Version-20PP, when the "Associative Dimension" option is active, the inserted Dimension takes on the Workplane of the entity being dimensioned.
Go figure... don't know why "they" set it up like that.

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January 19, 2019, 03:30:26 PM
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In my experimentation with Version-20PP, when the "Associative Dimension" option is active, the inserted Dimension takes on the Workplane of the entity being dimensioned.
Go figure... don't know why "they" set it up like that.

In the video, I set the view (World Plan) and set Workplane by View.  So how does this get misinterpreted?


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* January 19, 2019, 03:56:36 PM
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How did you make the circles ??
Made one and then Radial copy i assume ?
If you rotate them in the same time as you radial copy them the Dimension should come out correct i believe.

Torfinn

Edit, just checked, if i make sure they NOT rotate, then it will be correct
« Last Edit: January 19, 2019, 04:01:32 PM by Torfinn »

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January 20, 2019, 03:50:57 AM
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Made one and then Radial copy i assume ?
If you rotate them in the same time as you radial copy them the Dimension should come out correct i believe.
Edit, just checked, if i make sure they NOT rotate, then it will be correct

I may not be understanding you.

If you mean the rotation setting in the first image, I have never adjusted that in all the time I've used TurboCAD (10+ years).

And, as you can see in the second image, I am not having the problem with rotated text now.

Puzzling (aggravating, actually).


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* January 20, 2019, 05:49:27 AM
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Yes, if that stand on 0 it will dimension normal.
Also if you select the small circles and POW them it will dimension correct
That is what Alvin try'd to tell, as TC will change workplane to the selected Object, even if you set plane by world before dim.

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* January 20, 2019, 12:07:34 PM
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Also keep in mind Jeff:

(this pertains to Version-20, I can only assume that it is the same in the latest versions)

As I said, with "Associative Dimension" enabled, inserted Dimensions take on the Workplane (CS; Coordinate System) of the Entity being dimensioned.
With "Associative Dimension" not enabled, inserted Dimensions take on the Workplane (CS; Coordinate System) of the current/active Workplane.
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With the Selector in 3D Mode ("2D/3D Depending... " not enabled in the Selector Properties/General tab), and we Radial Copy, all the resultant copies will have a different Workplane (CS; Coordinate System).  Hence, when we Radius or Diameter Dimension each, with "Associative Dimension" enabled, each of the inserted Dimensions will be different-- having taken on the Workplane of the Entity being dimensioned.
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Maybe experiment with it a bit:  Turn on your User Coordinate System Icon; draw some stuff as you have been doing; activate the Workplane by Entity command, clicking on some of the Entities, including inserted (Associative, and non-Associative) Dimensions, and observe what the User Coordinate System Icon does.

Play around with it some... I think you'll see the same thing I'm seeing.  -Alvin

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* January 20, 2019, 12:21:22 PM
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Also, playing with is some more, I discovered:

With the Selector in 2D when Radial Copying-- alls's good... the copies retain the Workplane* of the original, the same as the current/active Workplane.

And-- If we do use the "+Rot" option in the Radial Copy options, as you pointed to in your recent post [and Torfinn said], we can negate the rotate factor of the copied entites, thereby enabling the ability to insert "Associative Dimensions", without them rotating.  Which was your original request/query.

All new stuff to me... Just discovered while experimenting for this Thread.
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*Keep in mind that in using the term "Workplane" here, I am not only referring to the Z position of the Workplane-- the plane of the Workplane-- but also the Origin Position of the X/Y Axes and the rotation of the X & Y Axes.  The inherent Coordinate System of the Entities.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2019, 01:33:03 PM by Alvin Gregorio »

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