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Anyone taken 2018 for a test drive what are thoughts?
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May 20, 2018, 10:20:54 AM
Hello
Usually when a new version is released, there is a fair bit of conversation around here about the new features, what people like, what they don't like, what worked in 2017 but now doesn't in 2018. I did see a couple short write-ups online that talked about the new and improved features, what are thoughts on 2018 ? I was curious why is it so quite around here?
Paul

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May 21, 2018, 01:53:31 AM
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2018 seems as stable as 2017 (which is also stable, in my experience).

I've tried a few of the new features, but have been more involved in actual work, so I cannot give you a decent review of the upgrades.


Jeff


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* May 21, 2018, 03:09:58 AM
#2
This does seem to be one of the quietest new releases. The one thing I like is the ability to isolate or hide objects. in pre 2018 versions I move things onto temp layers and turn the layer off.  I did try copying the AnimationLab palettes from 2017 into 2018,  some things work better with GDI/Lightworks, for example transparency,  however morphing (screen updating) is still broken, which could be an AL thing, but it works fine in 2016.

The perform mid 2point snap, works well, but when using SEKE's there is no indication that one has snapped the first point correctly, with running snaps one can use the magnetic point to visually see its snapping correctly.  This would probably only be a problem on drawing with many lines close togather, and one wanted to ensure that it has snapped to the correct line. In that situation one would probably turn on  snaps.

The trim by entity is another tool I could find useful.

My first impression is that one needs a good computer for 3D work (with largish file sizes). mine is nearly 6 years old, (an old intel I7 3770 with 16 gig memory).  and for me, 2018 / GDI / Lightworks is just too slow to be usable.  Therefore although I've bought 2018, for the time being I'm still using 2017 / RedSDK. and I'll use 2018 for small animations and files with fewer facets. I must point out, that this problem is probably just due to my old computer, and most people won't be trying to include as many facets (curved surfaces) as I am doing at present.

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* June 21, 2018, 12:36:38 PM
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I am wondering if using lightworks, which seems preferable from what I hear, will still allow me to show un-renderable objects in hidden line? I am getting used to the 2017 and I don't want to throw myself into another learning curve... I don't seem myself needing high quality renderings but the printing of the hatches and lines on facets that are facing the camera is important to me to get good line drawings for printing in HL and perspectives.

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-John
using TC Pro Platinum 2017


* June 21, 2018, 03:46:31 PM
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I am wondering if using LightWorks, which seems preferable from what I hear, will still allow me to show un-renderable objects in hidden line? I am getting used to the 2017 and I don't want to throw myself into another learning curve... I don't seem myself needing high quality renderings but the printing of the hatches and lines on facets that are facing the camera is important to me to get good line drawings for printing in HL and perspectives.

When you do a Hidden Line render, are you using "RedSDK Hidden Line" or "Hidden Line Hidden Line"? "Hidden Line Hidden Line" is what's available in 2018 without the RedSDK, so you could try it out now in 2017. LightWorks has a Hidden Line option, but it's never been like a normal Hidden Line drawing.

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V17—V21, 2015—2018
Designer, Deluxe, Expert, Basic, Platinum
RedSDK enabled, except in 2018
Windows 10, 64-bit


* June 22, 2018, 04:06:20 AM
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If I use Hidden line hidden line it shows all the non renderable objects even on the parts that are behind and shouln't be showing but if I go to Redsdk hidden line it corrects that so I only see the non renderable hatches on walls etc on the surfaces that are seen by the camera. This was sort of a big break through in my architectural drawings when I figured this out. It is very important to me to be able to do this and, though I understand lightworks is better for the full rendering, I would not want to uprade to something that does not give me the same capability with the rendering of non renderable objects. Unless there is a way to make it work in HL/HL that I am not seeing. Anyway, that is the reason for my question. I just got the email again for the upgrade deal and I am uncertain what to do with it.Thanks.

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-John
using TC Pro Platinum 2017


* June 22, 2018, 09:16:43 AM
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If you do upgrade to 2018, you will need the RedSDK Plugin to continue with your Hidden Line rendering.

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John R.

V17—V21, 2015—2018
Designer, Deluxe, Expert, Basic, Platinum
RedSDK enabled, except in 2018
Windows 10, 64-bit


* June 22, 2018, 09:27:41 AM
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Thanks.
Do you know if that will that be an additional cost add on like lightworks is for 17?

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-John
using TC Pro Platinum 2017


* June 22, 2018, 09:40:00 AM
#8
Most likely, the RedSDK Plugin will be extra. You could try contacting [email protected] and see what can done to get a better price.

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John R.

V17—V21, 2015—2018
Designer, Deluxe, Expert, Basic, Platinum
RedSDK enabled, except in 2018
Windows 10, 64-bit


* June 22, 2018, 09:42:42 AM
#9
Thanks. Or I could just be happy with my 2017 for now. Upgrading always scares the heck out of me. :)

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-John
using TC Pro Platinum 2017