TurboCAD Forums

The Ultimate Resource for TurboCAD Knowledge

Register
 
The purpose of these forums is to discuss TurboCAD.  Please keep the discussion of other products to compatibility issues or how the other software’s can be used with TurboCAD.


Marvin windows and doors?
Read 331 times
* January 03, 2018, 02:43:35 PM
Does anyone work with Marvin Windows and doors? Is there a way to import them and get them to work in turbocad? I went to their website and downloaded the DXF 3d files and I can open them in TC but they are only elevations drawn in 2d. They also have softplan and chiefarchitect and revit but I can't get any of those to work either. I have not tried other brands of windows, I am a contractor and I mostly use Marvin windows and doors. Wondered if anyone had any thought on this, I have searched the forum and internet for information with no success. I called Marvin windows and she told me they don't offer the DWG anymore, only the DXF and others on the website: https://www.marvin.com/marvin/doors/sliding-french?view=pro-resources&option=drawings#!autocad

Logged
-John
using TC Pro Platinum 17


January 03, 2018, 03:30:37 PM
#1
Does anyone work with Marvin Windows and doors? Is there a way to import them and get them to work in turbocad? I went to their website and downloaded the DXF 3d files and I can open them in TC but they are only elevations drawn in 2d. They also have softplan and chiefarchitect and revit but I can't get any of those to work either. I have not tried other brands of windows, I am a contractor and I mostly use Marvin windows and doors. Wondered if anyone had any thought on this, I have searched the forum and internet for information with no success. I called Marvin windows and she told me they don't offer the DWG anymore, only the DXF and others on the website: https://www.marvin.com/marvin/doors/sliding-french?view=pro-resources&option=drawings#!autocad

Hi John...

Are these any good? - http://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/user.html?id=uf353151e-2b5e-4359-950d-7edbddc94137&nav=models

Logged
Daz...
V2016 64-Bit & 32 Bit Platinum Edition - Build 61.2
RedSDK Only in 64 bit & 32 bit = RedSDK & Lightworks
TurboCAD user since V3 and Turbocad 3D V1.
OS Windows7 Pro 64bit Lenovo W701 Laptop, 12GB Ram, 2 x 128 SSD harddrives, NVIDIA Quadro FX 2800M Graphics, Intel i7 CPU...


* January 03, 2018, 03:44:38 PM
#2
Thanks, those are cool but that doesn't seem to be a file that is supported by TC17. I can't open them.

Logged
-John
using TC Pro Platinum 17


* January 03, 2018, 04:28:07 PM
#3
Looking at the Marvin website, despite the heading that says "Drawings and 3d models",  it appears that all of the drawings they supply, in any of the formats,  are either detail drawings or elevation drawings. Those are just 2d drawing that you can drag and drop into 2d plans, saving you the time and effort of drawing them yourself.

Logged


January 03, 2018, 05:19:38 PM
#4
Thanks, those are cool but that doesn't seem to be a file that is supported by TC17. I can't open them.

What about using an online conversion tool like this one? - http://www.babel3d.com/

Logged
Daz...
V2016 64-Bit & 32 Bit Platinum Edition - Build 61.2
RedSDK Only in 64 bit & 32 bit = RedSDK & Lightworks
TurboCAD user since V3 and Turbocad 3D V1.
OS Windows7 Pro 64bit Lenovo W701 Laptop, 12GB Ram, 2 x 128 SSD harddrives, NVIDIA Quadro FX 2800M Graphics, Intel i7 CPU...


* January 03, 2018, 05:44:20 PM
#5
I think you can make those doors in TurboCAD. You may have to do some tweaking.

Logged
John R.

V17—V21, 2015, 2016, 2017
Designer, Deluxe, Expert, Basic, Platinum
RedSDK enabled
Windows 10, 64-bit


January 03, 2018, 05:49:13 PM
#6
If all you have is 2D (DXF, DWF, PDF, etc.), then you can use them as references to create 3D objects that can then be converted into a Block.  The Blocks can then be placed as needed.

First, make sure that the 2D references are accurate (you may have to scale in X or Y, or even redraw according to the dimensions).

Then, you can Simple Extrude the 2D references, even going so far as rotate and position various views (XY, XZ, YZ) so that they can overlap and 3D Intersect to produce the desired object.


Jeff

Logged
TC Pro Platinum 2017, 2016 & 2015 (all with LightWorks) & V21
System: i7-5820K @ 3.30GHz, ASRock X99 Extreme4, 16GB DDR4-2133 RAM, Gigabyte GTX 970, Samsung NVMe SSD 950 (256GB), Windows 7 Pro (64-bit) SP1


* January 04, 2018, 06:41:25 AM
#7
Thanks for all the help guys, Next question, then, is: Once I create a window or door or whatever, how do I make it "act" like the windows or doors that come up when I hit the window or door architectural button? How do I make it so that it automatically places in a wall and with the properties adjustable in the window or door properties box? I have not searched for this yet so it might already be out there. I appreciate the help with this stuff, there is obviously a LOT that I don't know.

Logged
-John
using TC Pro Platinum 17


* January 04, 2018, 08:58:45 AM
#8
The windows I show are from "Door Styles" found in the "General" section of Properties (Marvin French and Marvin French-2).
I initially made a simple "Profile Style" that mimics the complete door.
I also made a "Block" to use in that "-2" door.
Then made a "Door Style" for each, using that "Profile".
I edited the "Muntins" section for one Style, then the "Blocks" for the other Style.
See the 2017 TCW drawing posted above.

Logged
John R.

V17—V21, 2015, 2016, 2017
Designer, Deluxe, Expert, Basic, Platinum
RedSDK enabled
Windows 10, 64-bit


* January 05, 2018, 12:11:30 AM
#9
I would go with the block method - only because I don't like TC windows and doors and you already have the 2d geometry drawn.
If you are using doors you might want to create 2 blocks (a 2d plan view and a 3d model) and use the opening tool.
Or you can drag the blocks from the block palette onto a wall and it will automatically cut the wall.
With blocks you can add block attributes and use those to generate schedules which is quite handy.
with openings I use custom properties to generate window schedules.
It is tedious to create all these blocks so make sure to save them in a library file and drag them as needed.
library files come in as groups so they don't automatically attach to a wall.
I explode the group. Then drag the block (or opening) to the wall, hold the ctrl key down and click on the wall it should make a copy of the block (or opening) and attach it to the wall. - I do use running object snaps and construction lines (if necessary) to position the blocks.
I have attached an example of a typical window and door library file which I use
« Last Edit: January 05, 2018, 12:45:18 AM by nikkipollard »

Logged
Nikki
TC20 platinum
TC 2015 platinum
TC 2017 with lightworks


* January 05, 2018, 08:39:28 AM
#10
Thanks again for all the help.
A new problem when I am trying to create profiles:
I go to profiles and click create e new profile and give it a name.
That gets me to the drawing page for new profiles.
I start with drawing a rectangle, I draw it and click enter.
As soon as I try to rotate or zoom in or out, my rectangle disappears and I can't find it again.
I also can't select the rectangle at all, it just doesn't let me, even if I try to select all.
I dn't know what I am missing here.

Logged
-John
using TC Pro Platinum 17


* January 05, 2018, 10:32:09 AM
#11
Maybe you are in Hidden Line mode

Torfinn

Logged
V18, V19, V20, V21, 2015/ 16/ 17 Pro. Platinum
Deluxe V20, V21, 2015/ 16/ 17
RedSDK enabled
Windows 10 Home Premium 64 bit, 32 GB
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 780m, 1 GB


* January 05, 2018, 11:12:12 AM
#12
Maybe you are in Hidden Line mode

Torfinn

That's it. Thanks.

Logged
-John
using TC Pro Platinum 17


January 06, 2018, 01:56:35 PM
#13
Maybe you are in Hidden Line mode

Torfinn

That's it. Thanks.

I'm embarrassed I didn't figure that out as a possible solution.


Jeff

Logged
TC Pro Platinum 2017, 2016 & 2015 (all with LightWorks) & V21
System: i7-5820K @ 3.30GHz, ASRock X99 Extreme4, 16GB DDR4-2133 RAM, Gigabyte GTX 970, Samsung NVMe SSD 950 (256GB), Windows 7 Pro (64-bit) SP1


* January 06, 2018, 02:02:26 PM
#14
Maybe you are in Hidden Line mode

Torfinn

That's it. Thanks.

I'm embarrassed I didn't figure that out as a possible solution.


Jeff

I am starting to realize that humility is going to be a big part of this learning process. It took me a while to get up the courage to post my trivial questions here but I am thankful there are folks out there willing to help.
-John

Logged
-John
using TC Pro Platinum 17


January 06, 2018, 02:06:04 PM
#15
I am starting to realize that humility is going to be a big part of this learning process. It took me a while to get up the courage to post my trivial questions here but I am thankful there are folks out there willing to help.

Hey, I've been using TurboCAD for 10 years and I'm a Beta Tester.  Even with that, I'm still asking questions from time to time (although I am answering more than I'm asking).


Jeff

Logged
TC Pro Platinum 2017, 2016 & 2015 (all with LightWorks) & V21
System: i7-5820K @ 3.30GHz, ASRock X99 Extreme4, 16GB DDR4-2133 RAM, Gigabyte GTX 970, Samsung NVMe SSD 950 (256GB), Windows 7 Pro (64-bit) SP1


* January 07, 2018, 02:14:58 AM
#16
Hey JohnH Ive never got a bad word from anyone on this forum. The people on this forum have to be the most respectful that Ive encountered.

By the way Welcome to the TurboCAD forum. Ask away !

Logged
Thanks Daz ( Darryl )
Using TCW 2015, 2016 & 2017 Platinum, Animation Lab V5, Graficalc, Lightworks mostly
Windows 10 Home ed. i7 @ 3300Ghz, 16GB, Nvidia 960GTX 4GB ram, 2TB HD, 500GB SSD & 128GB SSD

Good better best
Never let it rest
Until your good is better
And your better is best