Hi Alvin, Nikki, and John, I searched again today and just found that thread. I was able to get Nikki's technique to work, and I can't say it strongly enough, great job Nikki! And I use white a lot as well, which is why I have been trying to steer away from "convert to black" as John suggested. Actually just using white background in my text these days. In the past I would do convert to black and would get horrible results because of the white brush. The big thing that I have been trying to accomplish is to use black pen for the things that need attention, and graying out other things so as to add a level of cleanliness to my drawings. Such as a gray floor plan with dark lines for everything that pertains to the roof for the roof plan. I've attached the floor plan of the plan that I have been working on as an example. I have been trying to get this effect for a long time. You guys have some great information in here, I wish it could all be organized into videos. I used to do tutorials for TC but have been away from it for so long that I am trying to catch up on the progress that has been made in the last decade. Thank you guys so much!