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Copy Architectural Doors and Widows
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April 29, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
It was my understanding that one of the new features in TC 2017 was the ability to use the copy tools to add additional windows and doors to a wall. It is my experience so far that nothing has changed, that no copy tools work on this. In some earlier version, one could at least use the Make Copy tool. That doesn't even work for me.


April 29, 2017, 03:43:29 PM
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They work for me Don...in Build 32.5

Apart from Mirror Copy that is...  :P
« Last Edit: April 29, 2017, 03:49:41 PM by Darrel Durose »

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* April 29, 2017, 04:36:48 PM
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The "Make Copy" tool works for me to copy a Window or Door to the same or other walls within a drawing. "Rubber Stamp" does not work. Multiple items selected do not work with "Make Copy".

I can copy-n-paste a Window or Door to another drawing (it also brings the Wall with it), then use the "Make Copy" to copy the Window or Door to existing walls within that drawing.

If you have more than one floor level and are copying to another level, turn off the Walls that won't be used. I use "Previous Workplane" or the Workplane palette to change the selected Door/Window to the proper height.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2017, 04:46:20 PM by John R »

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* April 29, 2017, 05:04:43 PM
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It was my understanding that one of the new features in TC 2017 was the ability to use the copy tools to add additional windows and doors to a wall. It is my experience so far that nothing has changed, that no copy tools work on this. In some earlier version, one could at least use the Make Copy tool. That doesn't even work for me.

Hi Don,
It only works for me (linear copy) a window if I make the wall the window is in the current workplane prior to the linear copy,even though I am on the world plane and the "Wall" is on the world plane  ???
If I don't make the wall the current workplane the window will copy but it doesn't "cut out"in the wall.
It's quirky  ;D and I think it shouldn't do that., it could be redstuff up to its tricks>I haven't tested in GDI mode.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2017, 05:11:22 PM by Dean »

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* April 29, 2017, 06:10:02 PM
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Only tried once, but Linear Copy worked OK that time. I'm using 24.0.28.3, 32-Bit, GDI.

Henry H

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April 29, 2017, 08:47:21 PM
#5
Thanks for checking,

Lucky me, I guess. I created new templates from scratch based drawings and that seems to have fixed my wall issues, but nothing I try seems to solve the copy issue.


April 29, 2017, 08:57:07 PM
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Thanks for checking,

Lucky me, I guess. I created new templates from scratch based drawings and that seems to have fixed my wall issues, but nothing I try seems to solve the copy issue.

Spoke too soon on the fixed wall issue. Made a couple tweaks and bam! - broken again. Some days I wonder why I even bother using this screwed up program. It is sure not much fun any more.


April 30, 2017, 05:08:32 AM
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I wonder if some of this is a RedSDK updating issue (force a redraw - Caching of Model Space off and flick to Paper Space then Back to Model Space to get a RedSDK reload of graphics).

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April 30, 2017, 08:12:00 AM
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I wonder if some of this is a RedSDK updating issue (force a redraw - Caching of Model Space off and flick to Paper Space then Back to Model Space to get a RedSDK reload of graphics).

Thanks for the lead Darrel but it does not help.

I did reinstall V21 and opened the drawing there, saved back to v21 of course, and the walls are fine there. I guess I'll do architectural stuff there. I had created hoards of architectural stuff in V21 and never encountered issues like I do in the later versions. This seems to be one of the biggest hoops I've encounter with TurboCAD that I can remember - do mechanical in the later versions, do architectural in V21.

I can't help but think that TurboCAD should have stopped development at V21 when they had hit near perfection, IMHO. And......
Microsoft should have stopped at Window 7 for the same reason. I installed Windows 10 on my new computer and have wished ever since that I had installed Windows 7.

I know this is a bit of a rant and one can't stop "progress" as it is part of what makes the world turn, but it sure sucks when progress doesn't feel like progress at all.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2017, 08:14:07 AM by Don Cheke »

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* May 01, 2017, 11:27:30 PM
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In previous versions, to copy doors, windows and blocks to walls I just select them and use the Ctrl key to move and make a copy. I discovered this accidently when I copied a block too close to a wall once.

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* May 02, 2017, 03:20:45 PM
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Don, can you kindly post the 2017 version of this drawing? If not here, maybe in beta forum? Thanks.

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May 02, 2017, 05:18:46 PM
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Don, can you kindly post the 2017 version of this drawing? If not here, maybe in beta forum? Thanks.

The early file is attached.

I have continued in V21 and have encountered no issues at all.


* May 04, 2017, 03:19:00 PM
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Thank you sir, we will investigate.

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