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Stairs REDsdk TC 2016
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* April 04, 2017, 05:02:37 AM
hi all

This is my little project.

Can you help for More realistic? better setting luminancis ,render style,material setting etc...?

Download my project under pictures.


1-4 pictures are render Quality render lumi fine +sun

5 picture is render Advaced quality render +sky+sun(render time 94min)

Thanks for help!!!and sorry for my English


Pro Maja :koukni se mi na to prosim co by jsi vylepšil na tom renderu? nebo vice optimalizoval .Myslim si že to dlouho rendrovalo .
                Schody maji byt Dub přirodni Lakoveny ,aby to vydalo vice přirozeněji.DIky moc!






« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 06:09:20 AM by Culdosek »

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April 04, 2017, 01:55:18 PM
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Hi,

EN
I am look in to (faster) and I think you have higher values in the Advanced Render Style (ARS)
-> Glossy Sampling Rate: think 8-12 is sufficient (max. 16)
-> Light Sampling Rate: I use in this parameter 0. If is 0, then ARS catches Samples from setting the Luminances -> Samples Count (512-1024) -> less noise in pictures!

In the Attachment is zip file with Luminances, Environment and ARS settings.

But everything depends on what kind of atmosphere you want in the result!
And I would have added a ground (without material) outside the house. For corect Light from the Luminaces.

SK
Pozrel som na to zbezne a myslím, ze mas prílis vysoke hodnoty v nastaveni rendrovacieho stylu
-> Glossy Sampling Rate: myslim ze 8-12 je postacujucich (maximum 16)
-> Light Sampling Rate: tu pouzivam 0. Ak je 0, potom Rendrovaci styl prebera hodnoty z Luminancie -> Samples Count (512-1024) -> menej sumu v obrazkoch.

V prilohe je Zip subor s nastavenim Luminancie, Prostredia a Renderovacieho stylu.

Ale vsetko zalezi od toho aku atmosferu chces vo vyslednom obrazku!
A este by som pridal vonku "zem/podlahu" pre korektne svetlo z Luminancie

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* April 05, 2017, 01:12:35 AM
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En
Hi
thanks for help.render faster with these setting.
I try render with this setting .some camera view is black shadow ..look pictures.
Can you help me?
Ahoj
majo děkuji za rady a pomoc.

rendery jsou hned rychlejši!
jinak zkouÅ¡im rendrovat jine pohledy s nastavenim co jsi mi poslal.akorat nevim jestli někde neni chyby .
konkretně nasvícení sceny viz obrazek.
Je to kvuli nějake nastaveni?
Mohl by jses na to prosim kouknout?

Diky Majo !!!
« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 05:08:38 AM by Culdosek »

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April 05, 2017, 02:25:56 AM
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Ahoj,

skus potom prosim aj strucne v EN, kedze je to EN forum a aby aj ostatny mali z toho nejake info  ;) dik.
A k tym chybam, tak uprimne, neviem co tym myslis v tych oblastiach, ktore si oznacil.
Skus viac popisat problem prosim. Dik

A este, nieje vylucene, ze nastavenie bude na vsetkych rendroch "spravne".

EN:

Hi,

Try you write in EN also, simple describe problem, for information to the other users. Thanks!
And I do not know what problems you mean in red areas.
Pleas, try describe more informations. Thanks

And is not exclude that setting for ARS will working "correctly" in all rendered views.

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* April 05, 2017, 05:49:00 AM
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Ahoj,

skus potom prosim aj strucne v EN, kedze je to EN forum a aby aj ostatny mali z toho nejake info  ;) dik.
A k tym chybam, tak uprimne, neviem co tym myslis v tych oblastiach, ktore si oznacil.
Skus viac popisat problem prosim. Dik

A este, nieje vylucene, ze nastavenie bude na vsetkych rendroch "spravne".

EN:

Hi,

Try you write in EN also, simple describe problem, for information to the other users. Thanks!
And I do not know what problems you mean in red areas.
Pleas, try describe more informations. Thanks

And is not exclude that setting for ARS will working "correctly" in all rendered views.


En:New setting rendering on top post last 3 pictures
      I had to change exposure settings .look Picture setting on top Post
      Can you better texture oak varnished? thanks.
      In my work we did stairs+floor from oak natural  varnished
   Thanks majo

Cz:tak jsem na to přiÅ¡el bylo to tmavé protože jsem měl Maly osvit (renderovaci styl a nastaveni ) viz obrazek   a je to mnohem lepÅ¡i
     Koukni posledni 3 obrazky .Co mysliÅ¡? chtěl bych lepÅ¡i material Dubu přirodniho nalakovaneho ale bohužel nemam.MaÅ¡ něco?
     na obrazku jednom uvidiÅ¡ jak dělame přirodni dub lakovany schody + podlaha
     Majo děkuji moc Za pomoc!
« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 06:10:57 AM by Culdosek »

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* April 05, 2017, 07:46:38 AM
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Question for Majo: Can the "seeding" technique be used to realign the wood grain in Culdosek's stairs? I use it often with Lightworks, but I don't know if it works with Redstuff.

Henry H

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April 05, 2017, 11:35:31 AM
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Question for Majo: Can the "seeding" technique be used to realign the wood grain in Culdosek's stairs? I use it often with Lightworks, but I don't know if it works with Redstuff.

Henry H

Henry, I tried "seeding" technique but without a good ending with Redstuff ...  ???

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April 05, 2017, 12:25:59 PM
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En:New setting rendering on top post last 3 pictures
      I had to change exposure settings .look Picture setting on top Post
      Can you better texture oak varnished? thanks.
      In my work we did stairs+floor from oak natural  varnished
   Thanks majo

Cz:tak jsem na to přiÅ¡el bylo to tmavé protože jsem měl Maly osvit (renderovaci styl a nastaveni ) viz obrazek   a je to mnohem lepÅ¡i
     Koukni posledni 3 obrazky .Co mysliÅ¡? chtěl bych lepÅ¡i material Dubu přirodniho nalakovaneho ale bohužel nemam.MaÅ¡ něco?
     na obrazku jednom uvidiÅ¡ jak dělame přirodni dub lakovany schody + podlaha
     Majo děkuji moc Za pomoc!

SK: Skus taketo nastavenie.
Material: Pridaj viac IOR: 2.2 a Glossiness: 0.01

EN: Try this setting.
Materials Oak: Add higher value for IOR: 2.2 and for Glossiness: 0.01


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* April 05, 2017, 01:19:27 PM
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Question for Majo: Can the "seeding" technique be used to realign the wood grain in Culdosek's stairs? I use it often with Lightworks, but I don't know if it works with Redstuff.

Henry H

It seemed to work okay here.
  • I drew a 20×60×30mm Box on the World Workplane,
  • applied the same material used for the stringer,
  • rotated it to the same angle as the stringer,
  • placed it inside the stringer,
  • then 3D Added the Box to the stringer.
This was done in TurboCAD 2016.

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* April 06, 2017, 06:00:55 AM
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Good work Culdosek

John: But still not quite right: the grain on the edges seem to be going in the wrong direction. Probably due to a wrapped image. LW has a better wood texture in that it creates realistic grain on the face, edges and ends.

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* April 06, 2017, 07:32:45 AM
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Good work Culdosek

John: But still not quite right: the grain on the edges seem to be going in the wrong direction. Probably due to a wrapped image. LW has a better wood texture in that it creates realistic grain on the face, edges and ends.

Very true.

Henry H

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April 06, 2017, 12:31:25 PM
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* April 06, 2017, 11:43:20 PM
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* April 06, 2017, 11:55:20 PM
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CZ:Majo jsi borec:)
nečekal jsem že by jsi udělal v cadu ty schody co jsem tu daval jak jsme dělali ve firmě:)
MužeÅ¡ ukazat prosim jak maÅ¡ nastavenou texturu dřeva?


A jinak co s těmi materialy jak jsem ti psal dotazy u tebe v postu(meeting room)? 

Děkuji majo!

EN: majo please share texture setting oak..
       thanks majo

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April 07, 2017, 12:26:39 AM
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CZ:Majo jsi borec:)
nečekal jsem že by jsi udělal v cadu ty schody co jsem tu daval jak jsme dělali ve firmě:)
MužeÅ¡ ukazat prosim jak maÅ¡ nastavenou texturu dřeva?

EN: majo please share texture setting oak..
       thanks majo

SK: Mal som "pauzu"   ;D  Mozem ukazat, postnem tu cely vykres s nastaveniami.
EN: Have a break!  ;D  I will post file with the Setting

A jinak co s těmi materialy jak jsem ti psal dotazy u tebe v postu(meeting room)? 

SK: Pozriem sa na to a odpisem ti. Dnes mam trochu viac toho, vecer
EN: I will look in to it and answer you. Today I have more things, maybe evening.

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* April 07, 2017, 01:09:25 AM
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CZ:Majo jsi borec:)
nečekal jsem že by jsi udělal v cadu ty schody co jsem tu daval jak jsme dělali ve firmě:)
MužeÅ¡ ukazat prosim jak maÅ¡ nastavenou texturu dřeva?

EN: majo please share texture setting oak..
       thanks majo

SK: Mal som "pauzu"   ;D  Mozem ukazat, postnem tu cely vykres s nastaveniami.
EN: Have a break!  ;D  I will post file with the Setting

A jinak co s těmi materialy jak jsem ti psal dotazy u tebe v postu(meeting room)? 

SK: Pozriem sa na to a odpisem ti. Dnes mam trochu viac toho, vecer
EN: I will look in to it and answer you. Today I have more things, maybe evening.


CZ: tak to si rychle nakreslil o pauze:D
Jo v pohodě majo ja jsem rad ze mi pomahas a jsi ochotny mi pomoci.a věnujeÅ¡ mi čas.
Mam tedka nemocenskou ,Vyron v kotniku tak mam spoustu času na Turbocad a chci to umět perfektně
Chci vyřeÅ¡it hlavně  nastaveni materialu .s nastavenim nasviceni a renderevacimi styly jsi mi moc  pomohl:)

EN: you have draw fast :D
Thanks for help majo.You best

I want to learn setting material ..

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* April 07, 2017, 08:01:15 AM
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When usihg LightWorks, the "seeding" technique is useful for orienting the grain even with the TurboCAD wood materials. By using slightly different orientations and/or positions of the seed, one can produce slight variations in the appearance of objects that use the same material, thereby enhancing the realism. Not sure if this is true with Redstuff.

Henry H

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* April 07, 2017, 09:26:24 AM
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When usihg LightWorks, the "seeding" technique is useful for orienting the grain even with the TurboCAD wood materials. By using slightly different orientations and/or positions of the seed, one can produce slight variations in the appearance of objects that use the same material, thereby enhancing the realism. Not sure if this is true with Redstuff.
Henry H

Yes it works the same with RedSDK, however for me its inconsistent, sometimes I have to select the seed first, and other times I have to select the seed second, no idea why,  also because Red uses wrappings only, in order to get end grain, one needs to use a technique from the old forum (which may have been via yourself - I can't remember) of using an image of end sawn wood (unless one uses wrapping to individual surfaces like facets or UV wrapping).
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April 07, 2017, 11:35:28 AM
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CZ: tak to si rychle nakreslil o pauze:D
Jo v pohodě majo ja jsem rad ze mi pomahas a jsi ochotny mi pomoci.a věnujeÅ¡ mi čas.
Mam tedka nemocenskou ,Vyron v kotniku tak mam spoustu času na Turbocad a chci to umět perfektně
Chci vyřeÅ¡it hlavně  nastaveni materialu .s nastavenim nasviceni a renderevacimi styly jsi mi moc  pomohl:)

EN: you have draw fast :D
Thanks for help majo.You best

I want to learn setting material ..

SK: Ahoj, prikladam ePack
EN: Hi, ePack file - interior with the Stairs

It is for TC version 2016

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* April 07, 2017, 12:33:40 PM
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CZ: tak to si rychle nakreslil o pauze:D
Jo v pohodě majo ja jsem rad ze mi pomahas a jsi ochotny mi pomoci.a věnujeÅ¡ mi čas.
Mam tedka nemocenskou ,Vyron v kotniku tak mam spoustu času na Turbocad a chci to umět perfektně
Chci vyřeÅ¡it hlavně  nastaveni materialu .s nastavenim nasviceni a renderevacimi styly jsi mi moc  pomohl:)

EN: you have draw fast :D
Thanks for help majo.You best

I want to learn setting material ..

SK: Ahoj, prikladam ePack
EN: Hi, ePack file - interior with the Stairs

It is for TC version 2016


CZ:ahoj Majo děkuji Krasna prace :) děkuji za sdileni.
EN:HI,Thanks for sharing,Nice work!!!     

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