## Turbo Talk => Tips and Tricks => Topic started by: SeanK on October 10, 2017, 03:33:34 PM

Title: How to Define Available Line Widths
Post by: SeanK on October 10, 2017, 03:33:34 PM
Going nuts - Been doing this for years and just upgraded to 2016. Now I can't remember where to set the available line-widths 0mm, 0.2mm, .5mm etc. for the drop-down selection in properties.
Title: Re: How to Define Available Line Widths
Post by: John R on October 10, 2017, 03:44:44 PM

Expand "Settings", then "Built-In", then look under  "PenWidths".
Title: Re: How to Define Available Line Widths
Post by: SeanK on October 10, 2017, 03:51:02 PM
Thanks John!
Couldn't find anything in "Help"
Sean
Title: Re: How to Define Available Line Widths
Post by: nikkipollard on October 10, 2017, 09:48:18 PM
I wish that they would permanently change the metric penwidths. The default metric sizes make no sense in a metric system.
Title: Re: How to Define Available Line Widths
Post by: John R on October 11, 2017, 10:20:05 AM
What should the sizes be? I think this was discussed years ago.

The default Pen Width settings:
[PenWidths]
in=0.01,0.02,0.05,0.1,0.2,0.5,1,2
mm=0.1,0.2,0.5,1,2,3,5,7,10,20
cm=*mm
pt=0.5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,12,16,18,24,36,48,72
pica=*in
twip=*in
mil=*in

I set up my Pen Widths using the sizes from my old Leroy pens:
[PenWidths]
in=0.008,0.01,0.013,0.017,0.021,0.026,0.035,0.043,0.055,0.067,0.083,0.098,0.125,0.150,0.200,0.250
mm=0.1,0.13,0.18,0.2,0.25,0.3,0.35,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1,1.4,1.5,1.75,2
cm=*mm
pt=0.5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,12,16,18,24,36,48,72
pica=*in
twip=*in
mil=*in

Even though I work in inches, my Pen Widths are displayed in Metric (Space Units / Line width units). Trying to get the company to change something in the Defaults can take years. Every year when a new version comes out, I go through the TCExplorer and edit all the tables that I'm concerned with. Then shutdown and save a copy of the "tcw24+xml.ini" file in the Built-In folder up to the Profiles folder. If I have to wipe out the contents of Built-In folder at some point, I can copy this custom INI file back in.
Title: Re: How to Define Available Line Widths
Post by: nikkipollard on October 12, 2017, 12:30:09 AM
John your pen widths are much more reasonable. The default has a 20mm pen width -  wider then a highlighter.
Most of them are more then a mm I usually use pen widths between 0.15mm and 1mm.
Title: Re: How to Define Available Line Widths
Post by: murray dickinson on October 12, 2017, 04:31:48 PM
Back when I learned drafting standards, Rotring, Staedtler and similar manual tech pens were standard metric line widths, they were based on ISO standards predicated on how legible they'd be when drawings were scaled by Xerox-style photocopying, but we were taught how to set them up for AutoCAD paper spaces.  Standard widths were .3mm, .5mm, .7mm, .9mm and 1.3mm.  That was a long time ago and I haven't been in the business of hard-copy drafting for almost that long, so I don't know if that's still used.   I still see mechanical pencils and drafting pens with those widths in the shops (I like nice mechanical pencils to sketch with, but 2mm and 5mm leads, and I've got a couple of little tablets with pressure sensitive styluses, which are fantastic for thickness/width variation.  They're like NuVinci infinitely variable bicycle gearing, with a near 500% stepless range instead of standard gearsets that have 300% spread or so with 21 - 30 increments - think of those as pencils...).  Printer technology makes the photocopy scale rationale obsolete, too.  Apple beats their chest about their "Retina" screen optical resolution definition at 300 or so dpi, but printers claim 600-2400 dpi.