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Title: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on January 29, 2015, 01:28:12 PM
Just finished writing an article on creating springs in TCad. Thirty-nine pages with 62 illustrations. Hope some of you find it helpful. Article is attached herewith.

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Tim Stewart on January 29, 2015, 01:31:11 PM

Brilliant, thank you Henry.

Regards Tim
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Darrel Durose on January 29, 2015, 01:52:28 PM
Excellent Henry!.....that is some body of work  :o

Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Bobich on January 29, 2015, 09:20:06 PM
Excellent Henry!.....that is some body of work  :o

Thanks for sharing!

Me 2

Best Regards
Bob
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Andy H on January 30, 2015, 12:50:21 AM
Excellent, many thanks for taking the time to write it.

Andy
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: exdraftee on January 30, 2015, 01:15:54 AM
Wow, i hope some good karma comes ur way
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Don Cheke on January 30, 2015, 05:24:15 AM
This is a terrific contribution to the TC learning base Henry. Your true engineer is showing in it. :-) Lucky us!
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Marek on January 30, 2015, 08:08:38 AM
Hi Henry
Super tutorial. I drew a few types of springs. I tried to draw the spring with increasing cross-section of  the rod, and then decreasing cross-section of the rod, as it showed in the topic "Teaser". I used for this Rail Sweep tool with settings draft  angles (± value), and then I used the 3D Intersect. I'm curious about how you did it.
Marek
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on January 30, 2015, 08:57:19 AM
Hi Henry
Super tutorial. I drew a few types of springs. I tried to draw the spring with increasing cross-section of  the rod, and then decreasing cross-section of the rod, as it showed in the topic "Teaser". I used for this Rail Sweep tool with settings draft  angles (± value), and then I used the 3D Intersect. I'm curious about how you did it.
Marek

Bravo, Marek. I didn't think of doing it that way. Mine was made by splitting the path into two pieces and Rail-Sweeping each half separately, then 3D-Adding the two Sweeps.

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: DonCW on January 30, 2015, 12:11:17 PM
Great Tutorial Henry,

Thanks for taking the time to do it.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: John R on January 30, 2015, 04:43:19 PM
Lovely work.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Orion20036 on January 30, 2015, 04:54:22 PM
Excellent Tutorial Henry, you just about covered all the common springs in use, and very professionally laid out also.   

We must have you cloned for future generations Henry!. ;D
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Dave C on January 31, 2015, 03:07:55 AM
Awesome.
Thanks Henry.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Dean on January 31, 2015, 03:36:55 AM
Beautiful work Henry, Thanks

Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Paul on February 01, 2015, 09:24:50 AM
Just awesome.  :)
Thank you Henry.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: RCFlyingKnight on February 01, 2015, 12:05:15 PM
Thank you, Henry.

The tutorial is very helpful.

Matthew
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Jeffin90620 on February 03, 2015, 12:17:20 AM
Inspiring (literally).  I am thinking of ways to use this information to design unique earrings and pendants.


Jeff

Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on February 03, 2015, 07:25:26 AM
Inspiring (literally).  I am thinking of ways to use this information to design unique earrings and pendants.


Jeff

That's one of the applications I was thinking of, Jeff. Please let us see what you come up with.

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Ken Simmons on February 04, 2015, 06:51:58 PM
Excellent tutorial Henry. Don Cheke can put his input on this question, what software(s) do you need to make a PDF tutorial. Also Henry, your graphics are those rendered in Turbocad and "pasted" onto a background.

Ken Simmons   
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on February 04, 2015, 07:28:45 PM
Excellent tutorial Henry. Don Cheke can put his input on this question, what software(s) do you need to make a PDF tutorial. Also Henry, your graphics are those rendered in Turbocad and "pasted" onto a background.

Ken Simmons

I wrote the article in MS Word, Ken, and converted it to PDF using Adobe Acrobat 8. (Adobe made that available at no cost a couple of years ago.) The illustrations were created in TCad, copied from there and pasted into Paint Shop Pro for additional tweaking. Copied from PSP and pasted into Text Boxes in Word.

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Don Cheke on February 05, 2015, 03:33:43 AM
Excellent tutorial Henry. Don Cheke can put his input on this question, what software(s) do you need to make a PDF tutorial. Also Henry, your graphics are those rendered in Turbocad and "pasted" onto a background.

Ken Simmons   

Hi Ken,

I, like Henry, write my tutorial in MS Word and then create the PDF using the Acrobat PDF functions that incorporate in MS Work when installing Acrobat (I use the latest version). I use Snag-It to capture images from TurboCAD for quick insertion into the document. The whole process works well and is easy.

EDIT:
I use a different method for my TC Tips. Here I use Adobe InDesign to create the document (save as PDF upon completion). I still use Snag-It to gather my images from TurboCAD when needed (but I capture them as tiff's for better quality), and all final renders are high res image saved from TC. This produces a better end product. It would be too time consuming to produce the tutorials with this method.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Ken Simmons on February 05, 2015, 04:26:27 AM
Thanks, Henry and Don, I have Snag-it, and I have OpenOffice and Paint.net, guess I can try these. I will look into the Adobe products. If I can learn the steps to produce a PDF tutorial, there is other area of interest's that I can use this. I also have Simlab 2014 that I can learn to make 3D PDF. Thanks again for your guy's contribution to TurboCAD.   
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: William Ross on February 05, 2015, 06:56:37 AM
Thank you most sincerely, Henry!
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: s obsessed on February 05, 2015, 12:42:29 PM
I just made my first spring an hour ago. It needed closed ends so I just kind of hacked it to make it work for now. Then I come across this and I can go back and make a decent spring! What timing! Thanks for putting the time into this.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on February 05, 2015, 01:45:22 PM
I just made my first spring an hour ago. It needed closed ends so I just kind of hacked it to make it work for now. Then I come across this and I can go back and make a decent spring! What timing! Thanks for putting the time into this.

Which method did you use?

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: IanSutor on February 07, 2015, 05:11:19 AM
Fantastic tutorial Henry.

I've worked within the spring/wire forming industry for 30 years but have never actually had to draw a spring. I mostly produce springs to customers drawings on CNC machines.

If you're interested you can see one of our machines making springs here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVdqphh_l1U&index=10&list=PLiplEBFZpalcinAkVKOuaxtovAgu3xYtL



Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on February 07, 2015, 08:48:59 AM
Fantastic tutorial Henry.

I've worked within the spring/wire forming industry for 30 years but have never actually had to draw a spring. I mostly produce springs to customers drawings on CNC machines.

If you're interested you can see one of our machines making springs here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVdqphh_l1U&index=10&list=PLiplEBFZpalcinAkVKOuaxtovAgu3xYtL

That is one fancy spring! Thanks for posting the link.

I once did watch a similar machine at work.

Henry H

Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on February 08, 2015, 04:05:48 PM
Inspiring (literally).  I am thinking of ways to use this information to design unique earrings and pendants.


Jeff

Here's another way to use it...

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Steve The Kiwi on February 12, 2015, 09:26:26 AM
Thank-you Henry, I remember some time back creating a spring using a torus, I shall read this keenly.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Jeffin90620 on March 04, 2015, 10:28:19 PM
Thanks, Henry and Don, I have Snag-it, and I have OpenOffice and Paint.net, guess I can try these. I will look into the Adobe products. 

If you don't need to create a Table of Contents or Index that has clickable links on the page numbers, you could use any of the PDF Printer Drivers (I prefer CutePDF).


Jeff

Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: John Douglas on March 08, 2015, 06:50:13 PM
Henry, what a magnificent tutorial. Thank you so much. You never cease to amaze. I'm down to one screen at present so I'm printing it out in full colour. Oh boy can't wait to create some of those less common springs.
Kind regards,
John Douglas
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on March 08, 2015, 07:11:51 PM
Henry, what a magnificent tutorial. Thank you so much. You never cease to amaze. I'm down to one screen at present so I'm printing it out in full colour. Oh boy can't wait to create some of those less common springs.
Kind regards,
John Douglas

Thank you for the kind words, John. Don't hesitate to ask questions if you run into problems.

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Stefaan on March 12, 2015, 08:58:45 AM
Thanks so much Henry!!!
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: RC_Flyer on March 18, 2015, 05:36:42 PM
While I have not yet needed to develop a spring, I am sure I will at some point. 
Downloaded the tutorial now and tucked it away where I can find it, at least I hope so.   :)
Thank you, Henry, for taking the time to share your expertise with us mortals.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on March 25, 2015, 11:31:31 AM
Here's another application of the Bend Sheet technique discussed in the article: Special screw threads...

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Don Cheke on March 25, 2015, 11:43:15 AM
Here's another application of the Bend Sheet technique discussed in the article: Special screw threads...

Henry H

That is terrific Henry! Who knew that even a simple screw could be a work of art in the right hands.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on March 25, 2015, 11:51:35 AM
Here's another application of the Bend Sheet technique discussed in the article: Special screw threads...

Henry H

That is terrific Henry! Who knew that even a simple screw could be a work of art in the right hands.

Thanks, Don. That's a LightWorks render, BTW, using the "Presentation 10m" Advanced Render mode. Render time just about one minute. It was a remark you made several weeks ago that reawakened my interest in AR.

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: DougS on November 02, 2015, 03:06:12 AM
Thanks for this Henry. I've been reading your tips on this forum via Google searches for some time. I decided to register to download this document.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on November 02, 2015, 08:21:50 AM
Thanks for this Henry. I've been reading your tips on this forum via Google searches for some time. I decided to register to download this document.

Nice to have you aboard, Doug. Hope you find the article useful.

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: KS on December 31, 2015, 08:19:46 AM
Excellent tutorial Henry.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on December 31, 2015, 09:32:34 AM
Excellent tutorial Henry.

Thanks, Kai.

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: John B. on January 06, 2016, 05:29:37 PM
I made the torus and the spring but I can't 3D Add them together.  V12.5.

John B.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on January 06, 2016, 06:19:12 PM
I made the torus and the spring but I can't 3D Add them together.  V12.5.

John B.

Just where in the article are you, John?

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: John B. on January 06, 2016, 06:30:25 PM
E.1.1.1.1. Basic technique, Page 6. 

John B.

I did another torus and spin and it worked OK. 
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on January 06, 2016, 07:41:04 PM
E.1.1.1.1. Basic technique, Page 6. 

John B.

I did another torus and spin and it worked OK.

Problem solved?

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: John B. on January 07, 2016, 07:17:38 AM
Problem solved for now and I apologize for not trying to fix it before I made the inquiry but I always panic and run to the forum.  I'll try to get through your tutorial with 12.5 and I'll see how far I get.

John B.
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on January 07, 2016, 07:33:52 AM
Problem solved for now and I apologize for not trying to fix it before I made the inquiry but I always panic and run to the forum.  I'll try to get through your tutorial with 12.5 and I'll see how far I get.

John B.

Many of the tools discussed in the article are not available in 12.5.

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: dgapilot on March 31, 2016, 09:16:49 AM
Henry,
Just downloaded and looked quick. I like it! Hopefully I'll get some time this weekend to go over it.

Some of the springs I deal with are closed and ground ends. As I go through, I'm interested in making drawings for that. Any quick ideas on modifying the closed end to a closed and ground end?
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on March 31, 2016, 11:17:01 AM
Henry,
Just downloaded and looked quick. I like it! Hopefully I'll get some time this weekend to go over it.

Some of the springs I deal with are closed and ground ends. As I go through, I'm interested in making drawings for that. Any quick ideas on modifying the closed end to a closed and ground end?

Use one of the techniques for closing the end coils, then use 3D Slice to trim off some of each end.

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: kickout on September 23, 2016, 09:30:42 AM
I have tried making the coil spring with short hooks.  I have gone through the steps and when it says to change the size z to zero that is grayed out and I can't change it.  I have been using turbocad for 2D drawings and now just started trying the 3D so I'm unsure if I have some setting incorrect.  Please help
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: Henry Hubich on September 23, 2016, 12:30:02 PM
I have tried making the coil spring with short hooks.  I have gone through the steps and when it says to change the size z to zero that is grayed out and I can't change it.  I have been using turbocad for 2D drawings and now just started trying the 3D so I'm unsure if I have some setting incorrect.  Please help

Which section of the article are you working in?

Henry H
Title: Re: Creating Springs in TurboCAD
Post by: William Ross on December 14, 2018, 12:51:41 PM
I wasn't able to reply when you posted this, Henry. Thank you so much.