With my problem, the grip box with grips, is always offset some small distance away from the vertex, point, etc. that I am trying to grab, no matter how much I move the pointer around. This happens with the dimension tool as well. The dimension grip doesn't hit the vertex, etc. even though I have the correct snaps on. I have IMSI Design, associated with TC Help, looking at a file I sent them. What I don't know is if the problem I am having will transfer for them to see as well.